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MICHAEL READ

The whole of everything, if it didn't already appear, would
just spring into existance. Why? Why not?!

Do you know why it is so difficult for people to awaken?
I do, lucky/unlucky me! ;-)
It's the universal conciousness - the way it functions.

The universal concious niether suffered nor did it enjoy until
sentient creatures came into being (appeared on the scene) as it
were. With the appearance of creatures like us the universe can
admire itself, experience emotion, indulge in drama and so on and
so on and so on.

From time to time so-called sentient beings (like you and i) begin to
question and search out the why of all this. You know, why does
anything even exist at all? As we do, the universal conciousness
(which by the way is what 'we' truly are) diverts us with the drama.

So when we try to share our understanding of the immensity and the
beauty that really nothing exists except the functioning of this
universal conciousness, it is the universal conciousness itself that
diverts attention away from itself.

Now, I am most definatly not trying to make the uc over into god or
something like that. Sure sounds that way though, doesn't it?
heeheehee

Well, if I have any advice to offer, it is this.

Live, laugh, love, and be happy.
If you are happy, laugh.
If you are sad, cry.
Be as kind to everybody as you can be.
Never consider that you are better or worse than others.
Allow your mind and emotions and body to be in balance.

And understand one simple thing - we are all in the same boat.
And we may never all paddle in the same direction at the same time
but, it doesn't really matter because the boat is going where it
wants to anyway.

What a bunch conceptual bullshit, eh?

I love you deeply, truly and without reservation or hesitation.
Why? It's just my nature. :-)

Well, time to finish packing - moving on to new digs. I will be
offline for maybe a week or so.

Until then -

HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!

Peace - Michael

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GILL EARDLEY

Announcing a new yahoogroup:

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spilling the beans on Enlightenment.

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and he hasn't sought the permission of some remote Ascended Master in
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Why should he? He woke up in London on the Millennium - zero degrees
longitude.

Incidentally, exactly where Benjamin Creme and when Paco Raban said the
Messiah would appear. Though Dave modestly discounts such theories,
saying:

"I am just an ordinary London lad"

http://oshana.org/

This clearly points out that enlightenment is not the sole-preserve of
any class or group. And you don't need to invest lost of time and money
on rituals, study and devotional service.

Dave offers free advice over the Internet, and at 2am in a rave club
"The Den of Enlightenment".

The Oshana Enlightenment Outreach is a non-profit making organisation,
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Meeting report: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oshana/message/139

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Announcements List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EnlightenmentNow

Independent Review: http://www.sannyasnews.com/Pages/dave%20oshana.html

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JERRY KATZ

Hi,

I've redesigned the home page of NDS website to emphasize its main
function, which is to bring people together. For the first time, there
is a list of living nonduality teachers categorized geographically.
There's a lot more stuff too, and it's all nicely laid out on the home
page, so check it out. Go to <http://www.nonduality.com>

Also, if you are open to meeting other 'nondual people' in your
community, let me know. I can keep you anonymous. Or feel free to post
a letter to the NDS list. I can tell you there have been several
successful meetings around the world. Typically what happens is that
you would have an email exchange with someone in your area, and if the
two of you seem interested in meeting, you meet somewhere in town for
lunch or something. Let me know if you have any questions.

Jerry Katz

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CHINMAYO (from Wide Open Windows List)

Hello everybody

I would like to point out to you a new initiative. I have written an
"open letter". The letter is about Nondualism as a viewpoint on
fundamental scientific theories. I will send this letter to a number of
scientist, namely

David Deutsch ('The Fabric of Reality')
Lee Smolin ('The Life of the Cosmos')
Frank Tipler ('The Anthropic Cosmological Principle', 'The Physics of
Immortality')
Kitty Ferguson ('Fire in the Equations: Science, Religion, and the
Search for God')
Erich Jantsch ('The Self-Organizing Universe')
Henry Stapp
Jack Sarfatti
Paul Davies ('The Cosmic Blueprint')
Roger Penrose ('The Emperor's New Mind')

These people are among the most open-minded and original scientists I
know of and it would be great if any of them would like to enter in a
discussion about Nonduality and Science.

But before I do so I would like the members of this e-group to have a
look at it and maybe you want to comment on it which I would welcome
very much! Also very welcome are names of more scientists I maybe
should include in this survey. You can find the letter at:
http://www.wideopenwin.com/PointZero/nonduality.html

love Chinmayo

Visions of Truth
http://www.wideopenwin.com/vot/
PointZero
http://www.wideopenwin.com/PointZero/

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ERICH HAENSELER

dead again, again again and again ...

Hi Nonduality!

Ha, it's funny how my kids call themself non-"duality", don't you
think?

Here's mom,

I've come across a couple of almost new lists that I thought could
have a great future and might intrest Somebody.

Firts, Thedead, the theme is dead dreams, money and peace, the list
is pretty dead dough, there's only 3 members and I haven't heard from
the owner yet, I think she'd dead :-)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedead

Then there was the welcomeyourself list, that one is even more dead,
because I'm the owner :-) The main theme there is called, "Welcome
Yourself, The marketing of life is yours" Haha I think that's pretty
funny!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/welcomeyourself

And third there's the 1 group, that 1 is actually pretty active,
that's were we practice dead dreams in action. It got placed under
the marketing and internet section, after the motto:"Welcome
Yourself ..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1group

So, and here's some inspiration:

What did you imagine!

Look!
Look Look Look!!!
See The sky!
See The clouds!
See The stars!
See The moon!
See how much I love you!!!


What did you imagine?


Your money was Never my dreamworld.
My dream was your imagination!
Your imagination was my power!
Here was my power!


You were alive!


Dream Mirror Dream!
A cave of thoughts!
A sky of dreams!
My dream was your imagination!
Your love was my dream!


Your blood was my dream!
Your rain was my dream!
Your sky was my dream!


Your world was my dream!
You were living my dream!
You ... were ... my ... dream!


My dream was your imagination!
Your imagination was my dream!
I was your imagination!
You .. my dream!
Imagine!


Imagine Imagine Imagine!!!


Imagine my dream was your money!
Imagine your money was my dream!

You can stop imagining now.
Your money was Never my dream world.
Your love was my dream!


Your blood was my dream!
Your rain was my dream!
Your sky was my dream!


Your world was my dream!

I was your imagination!


Your money was Never my dreamworld.
You ... my ... dream!


We ... your surprise!


Surprise Surprise!
Like a dead Dream surprises Never your past!
Like a dead Dream in Nobody's sleep!
Now you remember my dream!


You are my money!


Now is Here Again!
The Light The Power The Money!!!
Yes you remember my dream!


I am your imagination!
You are my dream!
We are your surprise!!!


Now dreams my future!
Here imagines your beginning!
Again wonders A living!!!


The Money The Power The Light!!!
Again Here Now!!!


Greetings Everyone!
Everyone remembers my dream!


I am your beginning!
You are my future!
We are alive!
My name is Somebody!
Ignorance is my choice!


Somebody!


Somebody lives before the beginning.
Somebody lives past The end.
My name is Somebody.


Somebody Somebody Somebody!!!


Everyone lives before the beginning!
Everyone!
Everyone lives past the end!
Everyone Everyone Everyone!


Forever Everywhere And Everyone!!!


Forever dreams my future!
Everywhere imagines your beginning!
Everyone lives!


Somebody lives dead.
Somebody dies alive.
Nobody dreams dead.
Nobody dreams dead alive!


Never surprises your past!
Nowhere imagines my end!
Nobody dreams dead!
Never Nowhere And Nobody!


Spark Surprise And Shine!!!


What did you imagine?
A toothpaste commercial?


I am your beginning!
You are my future!
We live!


I the past!
You the end!
We the dead!


Shine Shine Shine!
Spark Surprise And Shine!!!


My name is Somebody!
Somebody who Nobody wonders!
Again wonders Nobody!


Nobody Nobody Nobody!!!
Nobody dreams dead!
Nobody dreams dead alive!
Nobody wonders dead alive!
Nobody Nobody Nobody!!!


Never Nowhere And Nobody!!!


Alive Alive!!!
Wake up!
You are alive!
Alive Alive!
You are alive!


Wake up!


Wake up your past!
Never surprises your past!
Never!
You are my end!

My end!


Nowhere imagines my end!
Never surprises your past!


Never!
Never surprises your past!


Never! Nowhere!


Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never!
Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never!
Never! Never! Never! Never! Never!
Never! Never! Never! Never!
Never! Never! Never!
Never! Never!
Never!
Now!
Here!
Nowhere!


Nowhere imagines my end!
Never!
Nowhere!
NowHereNowHereNowHere!


Welcome to Nothingland!


At the end you surprise everyone!
Remember!
Every new beginning is a surprise!


Spark Surprise Surprise!


My mirror!
I told my mirror you are my end!
My end is your imagination!
I am your mirror!


Your mirror!


Imagine Imagine Imagine!
I am your imagination!
You are my dream!
We are the dead!
You are alive!


Shine Shine Shine!


You are alive!
You are my future!
My future!
Forever yours!
I am your beginning!


Your beginning!


Your beginning!


I am your beginning!
You are my dream!
My dream!

My dream!
I have the same dream everyday!
I am your beginning!
You are my future!
We are alive!


Shine Shine Shine!!!
Spark Surprise And Shine!!!

Go back to the beginning!

Greetings, Mom

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JOHN METZGER

Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Fool, n. A person who pervades
the domain of intellectual speculation and diffuses himself through the
channels of moral activity. He is omnific, omniform, omnipercipient,
omniscient, omnipotent. He it was who invented letters, printing, the
railroad, the steamboat, the telegraph, the platitude, and the circle
of the sciences. He created patriotism and taught nations war---founded
theology, philosophy, law, medicine, and Chicago. He established
monarchial and republican government. He is from everlasting to
everlasting---such as creation's dawn beheld he fooleth now. In the
morning of time he sand upon primitive hills, and in the noonday of
existence headed the procession of being. His grandmotherly hand has
warmly tucked in the set sun of civilization, and in the twilight he
prepares Man's evening meal of milk-and-morality and turns down the
covers of the universal grave. And after the rest of us shall have
retired for the night of eternal oblivion he will sit up to write a
history of human civilization.

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MARK OTTER

Hi Gang,

think a thought.


HOW FAR DID YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION?????

I went two feet.


Units are SO important.

Love, Mark
ps this is a physicist/mystic conversation. or maybe the reverse of
that.
pps it's all temporary...
pps. Oh it's a long way to temporary!!!!

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JERRY AND GARY

>Jerry
> It goes on and on. It was the first and it's the latest dance
sensation.
> We're all gonna be swallowed up like that wedding dance floor in
Israel.

Of course you know the story of God and the Devil having a
conversation:
God says to the Devil: Look at that man he's discovered 'non dual
truth' this surely is a bad day for you.
The Devil says: On no! on the contrary, I'm going to help him
organise it!

Gary

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ANDREW MACNAB

"He gave up immortality for integrity, and we love him for it," he
said. " A lot of vampires never get anything done, because their
immortality makes them procrastinate. He accomplished more in 247 years
than other vampires do in an eternity."

"It's one thing to be 'undead.'" continued Timmer. "It's another thing
entirely to be alive. Vlados was alive, even more so than most humans."

"Well, he's dead now," said a vampire spokesperson.

Vlados had no living relatives, since his family died in the late
1700s. They were murdered by Vlados in a rabid, bloody spree.

http://www.sweetfancymoses.com/sullivan_vlados.htm

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