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>"He who knows others is clever;
>he who knows himself is enlightened.
>
>-- Lao-Tzu --
>
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And I ask, who is that "he" who knows himself?
-The jiva (the person, the body-mind)?
Hardly. A non-entity can't possibly know itself.
-Brahman (the Absolute, the Self)? Impossible.
What is unknowable can't be known.
So, who is the real subject of self-knowledge?

Miguel-Angel
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Without an object there is no subject,
and so it goes.

Michael
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"The reason we have a lot of trouble
is that we have selves.
If we had no selves,
what troubles would we have?"

Lao-Tzu (via Andrew)
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The "he" is the jiva. He is a magical manifestation of Brahman and can
do anything. He can know.

Larry
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wonderful friends,

even though "i" am obliterated
to know myself
how fun it is to "come back" and
radiate the joy of it!

who is the real subject of self knowledge?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
know that one!


god, i love you
cee
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MICHAEL JOHNSON

Apperception

Conscious perception with full awareness.


The process of understanding by which newly observed qualities of an object are
related to past experience.


Conscious


Having an awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, sensations,
and
thoughts. Mentally perceptive or alert; awake. Capable of thought, will, or
perception. Intentionally conceived or done; deliberate. Inwardly attentive or
sensible; mindful. Especially aware of or preoccupied with. In psychoanalysis,
the
component of waking awareness perceptible by a person at any given instant;
consciousness.
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On TIME

> > The fertile eyes.
> > The river under the tongue.
> > In the dream, dreaming dreams
> > that I sleep,
> > that I dream.
> > I see the enormous sky
> > for a moment, eternity.
> >
> > andrew
> >
> > Taking a picture of the night sky with a flash on the camera,
> > the film being developped on paper
> > wonders
> > why the sky did not turn out white instead of black.
> >
> > For the butterfly flying around
> > The night was full of colors.
> >
> > Antoine
>
> If superstring theorists are right,
> The expansion of space will mean
> (in some untold billion years)
> That the night sky will shine with the milky way,
> But that everywhere else will be dark.
>
> My butterfly fears have me looking up
> To see this moment.
> The stars are busy winking.
>
> love, mark
>

The night-flying butterfly always approaches but can never reach the moon in
time, is
never separate from the moon in eternity.

andrew
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ANTHONY posts:

What does it mean to learn the knowledge of God's
Unity?
To consume yourself in the presence of the One.
If you wish to shine like day,
burn up the night of self-existence.
Dissolve in the Being who is everything.
you grabbed hold of "I" and "we,"
and this dualism is your ruin.

Rumi, Mathnawi I:3009-3012, tr. Helminski
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Hi Mark,
Great. Sounds like you had a good trip. You're the second person to mention the
Arthur Ganson machines, I will definitely go see them next time. Hope to meet
you and
Mary in person at the gathering in Rhode Island next month. By the way, anyone
planning to go should get in touch with Gloria, she needs to know.

love, andrew
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Yeah. Come on down. Or up. Hitch if you have to. Pour in from all ends of the
continent. I see people in Oregon climbing into trucks. 'Where you heading?'
'The
HS/NDS thing in Rhode Island, man, you goin'?' 'Well, yeah, I can take an extra
day
or two.' And so on.


J.
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YES!! All of you highlighters are invited, and the time to decide is now.
Harsha,
Jerry, Andrew, and Greg are just a few of the dozen people already going. It's
weekend of July 14, 15, 16 at the Providence Zen Center in Rhode Island.
Contact me
for details. glee@intrepid.net

Gloria

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