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There were many good posts today....too many
to include them all here... This would be a good
time to visit the eGroups site and read the posts
of some of your favorite writers at:

http://www.egroups.com/message/NondualitySalon/

Here's a taste of what was discussed Saturday....

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from GENE POOLE:

NDS

Power

A signal of 'go' or 'stop' occurs; if 'go' gates to destruction,
those genes terminate.

If 'go' gates to success, those genes continue.

This learning is our method. We are the genes of success. We 'know'
when to go or stop. For this great talent, we can thank not only the
survivors who are our progenitors, but also, those who died in order
to save us from their regressive tendencies.

This learning is our method; freedom is the 'ultimate go', with the
proviso of wise stopping thrown in. Autonomy is thus built upon
billions of bones of both survivors and failures; our independence is
dependent upon this method.

Power is the reward for success; getting into the clear is the result
of going and stopping intelligently. The flavor of power, and the
result of increased power, stimulate more precise conformance with
the learning of stopping and going. Incrementally graduated rewards
of potency, condition towards more power; power enables more
effective learning.

Power is for those who have learned our commonality; that is why
'compassion is the highest power'. Finding oneself on the plateau of
power, defense is dropped, also leaving behind aggression. This is
the favored position for those who 'learn as the way of Being'.

Superior operators cooperate with the desire of our genes; power is
the floodlight which illuminates what is always here. Optimal
functionality configures to invisible overparent role; gifting
becomes possible, when wealth is unlimited. Still, as obedient to
genes, gifts go to those whose learning trends towards this same
plateau. This diverging bifurcation, biased as it is toward rewarding
intelligence, speaks not to aggression. We see in this, the
compassionate allowance of death for what is against life.

How does power behave? Higher sees lower, but lower does not see
higher. Having seen anew, the graduate sees that there is more to
see, and sees that seeing is dependent on conservation and garnering
of power. Understanding that force is expenditure of power, force is
conserved, and thus power grows. Growing power shows more to the
seer; this strategy is for the growth of power, and for seeing ever
more.

Expedient here-and-now conservation of force is called 'abiding'.
Abiding, conserving power, allows seeing of abiding; this seeing
leads to a geometric increase in power and thus seeing. At a certain
point in this progression of abiding and seeing more, 'state of
unity' is attained; this state is related more to physics than
spirituality. State of unity allows simultaneous interoperability of
source and product. Another way of saying the same thing, is to state
that unity is the becoming one of the former (assumed) two. The power
of the source is thus manifested through, and as, the product.
Created becomes the vehicle of the creator!

Unity is the wedding of the physical world with the (assumed)
spiritual; what was assumed to be asunder, is shown to have been
non-separate all along. In this experience, substance (form) is shown
to be insubstantial (empty), and emptiness (ignorance) is shown to be
fullness.

"Form is emptiness, emptiness is form".

Unity shows a graduated non-progression; this graduation is time
itself. Time separates spaces of knowing; personal history, assumed
to be linear, telescopes to a flat plane of space, which is the
simultaneous realization of all of my ancestors. I am the living
experience of all genes; through my eyes they see the universe which
they love, and through my communications, they alert those who still
sleep, of the delights of waking awareness.

This goad, lovingly applied, is the subliminal trumpet of dawning. It
reverberates against the walls of diversion, eventually cracking and
rending them into the particles from which they were formed. Breath
effortlessly subsumes nourishment.

Stretching up from our roots, we naturally reach toward 'heaven'.
Embracing the emptiness of space, we know it as our fullness. We may
exploit it in any manner we choose. But our choosing is calibrated by
evolution into unity; lessons learned are never forgotten. That is
why the freedom of space is reserved for those who have accepted the
highest power, which is compassion.

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Gene's post prompted much discussion on the question
of POWER, some of which is included here:


from MARCIA:

Power is interesting. It is possible to become a man of
power and not be a force for the 'good.' In fact, this is
a real trap. A certain level is reached and it can get taken
for (I was going to say ego but it seems more than mere
ego).......

Gurdjieff had the ability to hypnotize people but he put this
outside himself. It is written about how certain powers come
one's way along the path but can end up being a distraction
or much worse. Hitler was no ordinary man.

I can see that as I learn about forces on the 'inner plane' of
existence it becomes possible to learn to manipulate them
but to what end? That is why, I believe, G. concerned himself
with objective conscience.

00oo00

from DAVE:

What becomes more obvious as one progresses, is that the power
has always been there, as we learn to conserve it, we are
directed more towards unity, which shows us how to conserve
further.

It acts somewhat like a tuned filter of extremely high "Q". Outside
the band, all the energy is spent maintaining "the status quo".
The bandwidth of resonance is very narrow, so that the majority
of the "frequency components" are outside the band. If the resonance
is found, consumption begins to drop radically, permitting an
almost autocentering of the frequency in the resonance.

The ease with which "an entity" enters resonance, depends on it's
original frequency characteristics, and how much energy must be
consumed to re-tune its components.

For that reason, it's like you say, the path of least resistance
is compassion.

The highest power, "compassion", becomes, as I think you have said,
"compassion for ones-self" that self being the pool of all. Compassion
for "ones-self" is intent. It is the characteristic of the singularity.
The impulse function: an infinite pulse of zero width, breaks down to
an infinite number of zero amplitude frequency components... in this case
resonating in Love/Compassion.

If "an entity", does not "re-tune" before the plug is pulled, the
"entity's" configuration will consume existing power until it dies
out. The pool learns. If on the other hand, an "entity" manages to
"re-tune", it is free to proceed to "alert those who still
sleep, of the delights of waking awareness."

00oo00

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MICHAEL offers a poem found at
this website -

http://www.parama.com/i%20am.htm


"I Am" neither here nor there,
Neither this nor that.


Make ME your search
And find only yourself
Seeking.


Make ME your prayer
And hear only your voice,
Praying.


ME your goal
And all you achieve is
Aiming.


BE as you Are, without desires,
And here "I Am"
BEING


Lose sight of yourself!
Between seeker and sought
Is SEEING.


For an instant be mindless.
Forget ME and you.
The Heart holds the Secret -
NOT TWO, NOT TWO.



Esther Veltheim

August 1999

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more from GENE:


NDS

Space

Space, invisible, is more than what it contains; everything in space
is in the emptiness of raw awareness. Awareness embraces what is in
it; space, universal, contains everything. Things abide in space;
awareness abides things.

Reflected by divisions between things, space is perceived, but is
invisible. Space is extrapolated rather than known. It is the
invisible, all-embracing nature of space, which reflects our reality;
all things are in awareness, and there is no conflict between things.
No thing is independent of space; no thing is outside of space. All
things dwell in space; all things are available for examination by
awareness.

Awareness-space-knowing is consciousness; allowing particles to abide
in space, we walk the halls of self-awareness, delighting in the
gallery of display. We appreciate the vastness which is awareness.
Knowing our momentum, we respect the conditions which exist, allowing
our existence. Seeing the ever-present abidance of things in space,
we relax into our nature; knowing of the unresolvable paradox, we
abide beside it and in it; It is all in us, and we are in it.

Reasonable, we may command the mechanisms which are display. The
product we desire is wholly our nature. Letting go of acquired
conditions, we are fed. We are the masters of changing conditions;
seeing that we bias manifestation, we accept what occurs, but what is
'really happening' is simply living Being in an environment which is
instantly responsive to the slightest, subtlest quiver of Being. In
this maternal womb, we are nourished by invisible placenta, which is
space.

The depths of our conditioning is revealed by the surrounding nature
of display; we live in a field of intimate and instantaneous
feedback. By wholly embracing what comes, we embrace ourselves.
Abiding the apparent universe, is acceptance of ourselves; nothing
happens outside of these conditions. Breath is unabated, the income
and outgo are a flow of self-determined patterns, an intelligence to
be seen. Discovering that we live in ourselves, we accept the
offered, offering acceptance to ourselves, unknown sacrificial giving.

The power of space is invisible, things are its products. Arising
from emptiness, displaying in fountaining transient form, returning
to emptiness; all of this is in awareness, invisible source,
unrequested gift, grace. This apparent miracle is the norm of Being.

Embraced by space, we learn to embrace what is invisible and unknown;
this giving of embrace, instantly warms and nourishes. It is an
embrace of ourselves. Space, unconditioned, universal, embraces all.
In our embrace of awareness, we embrace the awareness which knows us;
and that awareness is the space in which we are embraced.

Realizing that we make our own evaluations, we stop making judgements
of ourselves. Forgiving ourselves for desiring, desire becomes
neutral. In this field of neutrality, abiding, we know that what
comes, is what we are delivering to ourselves. Accepting what comes,
is acceptance of ourselves. Space is the field in which all of this
occurs; awareness is this space.

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from UARELOVE:


At the Spiritual Diary group I am posting

the Teachings of the Sages Russ and Nome.

If you would like to read these Teachings click on:

http://www.onelist.com/group/SpiritualDiary

then look upper left and click subscribe.

The Sages Russ and Nome Realized the Self

(removed the notion of a separate individuality)

by applying the Teachings of Ramana Maharshi.

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[ This digest has been cut short tonight due to technical
problems.....so this turns out to be a VERY good time
to read from the NDS list archives ....from the web.

Until next time,
Melody.]

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