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Madly singing
Stepping off
Mistworld
Jack o'Diamonds
Tumble
Horizon crack

Eggtooth
Light of darkness
Blinding bright
Fall away fall away fall away

Motherpuke
Eat Eat
Fly

--Andrew

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Zero approaches unattained
Until the last syllable
Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

Still the tree grows
birds sing
precipitation is expected
Sun and moon circle
the horizon
The day never ends

--andrew


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Why did the chicken cross the road?

NON-DUALITY SALON:
0 I don't believe in chickens.
0 No chicken, no road, only *that*
0 Because he was attached to suffering.
0 I love chickens! (aleks:)
0 Intuition
0 I don't give a shit. That chicken's roadkill!
0 To attend an endangered species rally.
0 The chicken is not the "doer." Nothing really happened.
0 To get away from himself.
0 Who is asking? Find out the source of this "i"
0 The little voices told him to cross the road.
0 That's what the book said to do.
0 I don't need to know.
0 Just for fun.
0 Cause "I" wanted to.

--aleks

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Eric writes:

my simple, kid laden, kitchen burning
text ignorant life
open torn she peals me
flesh and pain

dare i do
compare dying moths
to clutter
and mess i make

frightening, erin and i
shiva home in orion
dare the tales
risk the family

unyielding, rough
she takes no other
same
like cat and dog

12 arch angels talk
on webs of ducks
dawn rises
no shots in silence

to risk, to be peeled
my skin my roof
your home
is mine.



- - off to work for now,

I have never been Happier, Ever
Thank each and all of you beautifl creations-
I love yu ALl more than this o'duck
could ev'r express.

Eric

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Eric:

Reality is only the reflection of the self's perceptions,
and low, IS the best teacher.
That's is why I keep repeating: GET OVER IT. This is a
choice, and perhaps that is a teaching. What does one do
once they realize they want to wake up? Cling to the
pillow? Ignore the buzzer? What kind of processing are you
achieving with your eyes glued shut with the pastey sand of
yesterday's life?


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Dan:

I am looking at Self as meaning unification, organization,
wholeness. Self has relationship therefore to soul, self,
peace, harmony and God. All of these are words that relate
to a unity or organization of experience and perception.
The experience of all as Self is the experience of no
outside, no other, total unity. Thus, the Self inevitably
raises a Shadow. The Shadow being related to "outsideness,"
"otherness," "disunity." The Shadow can be associated with
illusion, ignorance, suffering, separation, or evil.
Thus, realization of Self doesn't necessarily mean the
resolution of the Shadow. I am using the term wholly Other
to refer to whatever is beyond Selfness and Shadowness. The
Other as whatever cannot be subsumed in the categories of
Self or Shadow (Shadow is not truly beyond Self, as it
remains associated to Self). Because of this Other, a
person who has experienced Self would be best not to be
complacent.
A person may yet need to encounter and work with Shadow, may
need to find where Self and Shadow "arise together," may
need to have any remaining sense of identification with
Selfness dissolve in the wholly Other.


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Melody:


I practice a little known healing art called Johrei. This
tradition suggests that the 'outer' bodies
(mental,emotional, etheric) can produce 'clouds' which
impacts the physcial body.

When the outer clouds are 'cleared', the body is no longer
in distress.

And when the Light of Johrei (or Awareness) is focused on
the 'clouds', often times the discomfort will first be
heightened, rather than diminished, until the clouds are
cleared. (This ties to my response on another thread, in
the example that Satan seems to 'turn up the heat' on those
who are inviting and embodying Christ.)

And so, in this tradition, when one has the flu or cold, his
affliction is met with the response "Congratulations!"
because fever in the body is seen as reflecting the 'burning
away' of spiritual clouds, or Shadow.

Yet one never knows what the result may be when the fever
clears. The result may be a healed body, or it may be a
body that is readied for death.

In Johrei, our affirming, centering prayer before we begin
is not for a 'healing', but for the clearing of spiritual
clouds (or attachments).

We needn't know, nor become invested in, the 'outcome' of
our focusing and channeling of Light.


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Tim G:

"A man is defined by what he does, not by what he thinks." -
Kuato, from "Total Recall."

On a "dual" level, a truer statement has never been spoken.
Yet on a nondual level, "a man" is not defined at all, but
remains undefined.
Curious, eh? How to live life?

If there is no sense of Being, it seems that acting in a
positive manner is all-important. If a sense of Being is
there, neither thinking nor acting are important, but simply
being Present. Actions will follow from immersion in
Presence. But that sense of Presence is not always there.
So again, how to live life? Shall we be doers, when we are
not BE-ers? Or shall we be thinkers?


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Dan and Gene:

Dan: It is important to observe, from what is this dream
protecting me/us? Upon what is this dream playing to gain
my allegiance in selling it my soul?

Gene: It is to avoid confontation with the shadow-masters of
the world-dream... to avoid the cruel fate of Jesus and the
other martyrs, who have dared to 'speak to the dreamers from
outside the dream'. It is to live in fear, to avoid the
uncertainty of freedom. "What profiteth a man, to sell his
soul, to gain the world?" The payback... is void.

Gene had said:
The Living Nondual Realizer knows no precepts, no laws, only
freedom. Such a one is free of and immune to any
'teachings' whatsoever. Such a one, may enter
conversation. In that conversation, all precepts, beliefs,
teachings, and paths are revealed to be the noise of the
activity of mind.

In the clarity, noise is noise; there is no hierarchy of
noise, no noise which is better than any other noise. The
world-dream debate as to the relative superiority of one
teaching to another is itself noise. All teachings are
moot.

Dan: Perhaps some teachings may genuinely point to the way
to end this dream.

Gene: Yes. My statement that "all teachings are moot" could
also read, "all teachings are mu". It is easy for me to say
that... yet I do not mean to bar the way for anyone to
assimilate any 'teachings' which they desire. To point out
the 'activity of mind' as a screen of noise... my be a clue
to some, to look beyond that screen.

My point was/is... that knowing that "all teachings are
moot" is a useful concept to consider, at the beginning. If
all teachings are moot, what is NOT moot?

Dan: These are teachings offered by those who were willing
to end the self, give birth to the soul that had been
aborted by allegiance to unreality, and who had compassion
for those lost in trance. They are teachings that don't
scoff, are not smug, convey respect for the being of all, do
not enshrine limited human precepts and percepts, do provide
an opening for light. Such teachings do not treat human
suffering lightly or cavalierly. They also do not
substitute either the teaching or the teacher for Reality.
Reality itself, as it is, is not a teaching - seeing this
clearly, no teaching is needed at that point.

Gene: Yes. Agreed entirely. Your POV... is as of one, who
having intimately experienced the storm of the drama of the
world-dream, has left the hurricane-shelter, and found
instead, a sunny and peaceful day...

Now, how about them daisies?


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Tomas:

again I ask, what do I really want?

isnt it intimacy with whatever is occuring here-thereby
including everything?

arent the best memories we have only a reflection of an
undefended intimacy with this moment ?

"I" looks for intimacy- it's a bundle of inadequate answers
to getting IT

IT has always been HERE-NOW, everything, nothing excluded,
is in it

the truth is that knowing is a myth that emerges, abides and
can subside in love, in the fullness and bottomless
unknowing that awareness IS

choosing is constantly being played out- but what do/does I
want?


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Sha'Tara:


This is a non-duality place. I don't know what non-duality
means, not in this reality anyway. Make a coin with only
one side. Show it to me.
That's non-duality. This Universe is created in duality.
Can anything in duality claim to be non-duality? It is, I
suppose, quite possible to believe anything. But it is not
possible to believe in Nothing. Non-duality is nothing, as
far as the type of creation we are in is concerned. All
talk of such is academic, a chasing after the wind, or after
nothing, because the wind is something. I sense that all
discussions of 'nothingness' (non-duality) by beings caught
in duality, is avoidance of the obvious. It is the old
concept of organized religion upgraded or sweetened with
Aspartame.


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Kristi:

The goddess saw herself reflected in the void...and reached
out to herself....splitting herself....and created the
polarities....forever joined, forever separate......male and
female the human incarnation of this phenomenon....

joined in essence...separate in phenomenology...coming of
one, returning to one, in the process appearing apart, but
leaving from and returning to sameness...

awareness of essential sameness eases the separation and
allows us to walk "apart" together....

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