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9/21/01 Friday




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YOGINI SAKTI re: ILLUSION WARNING


From what I have seen, maya is being translated here as
"illusion".
Maya & illusion are NOT one in the same. It is not even a close
translation.

Maya is "She who Measures", or "mirific energy". Maya is the
principle of manifestation, or ever-changing matter. It also
means, "consisting of", or "made of". To call it "illusion" is both
incorrect & limiting. To call it "illusion" is to show how bereft of
such concepts the English language is.

As a non-dualist, maya is relative reality in contrast to Absolute
Reality.

Maya merely reflects, like a mirror, the Absolute. This means
that
each of us are reflections of the Absolute; just as everything on
this planet is. But like most reflections, it is not pure, or not
true to the original.

Om Santi ...
Yogini Sakti

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GARY MERRILL


> Maya is "She who Measures"

Sounds like "She who Must be Obeyed"!
I was married to her once :-)

Light,
Gary.

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MICHAEL READ

Maya merely reflects, like a mirror, the Absolute. This means
that
> each of us are reflections of the Absolute; just as everything on
> this planet is. But like most reflections, it is not pure, or not
> true to the original.

put aside the ideas of pure and relative and true
all there is - is all there is
nothing is left out
nothing is excluded
not even the pretense that there is something to do
and someone to do it

loveya - michael

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GARY MERRILL


OK, now I started this Illusion Warning and its about time I came
clean.

There is no Illusion, it was a hoax.

So all the people that gave up their illusions, you are safe to go
back to
your realites now.

And all the people who knew it was a hoax and didn't give up
their realities
(we know who you are) you can carry on saying 'I told you so'.

Love,
Tweedle Dumb

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JAN B.


Dialogue - A proposal
By David Bohm, Donald Factor and Peter Garrett


http://www.muc.de/~heuvel/dialogue/dialogue_proposal.html

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TONY O'CLERY


Daily Words of the Buddha
September 21, 2001


He should not kill a living being,
nor cause it to be killed,
nor should he incite another to kill.
Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in the world.

Sutta Nipata II,14

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Subject: God practising His dropkick - Hafiz



TIRED OF SPEAKING SWEETLY

Love wants to reach out and manhandle us,
Break all our teacup talk of God.

If you had the courage and
Could give the Beloved His choice, some nights,
He would just drag you around the room
By your hair,
Ripping from your grip all those toys in the world
That bring you no joy.

Love sometimes gets tired of speaking sweetly
And wants to rip to shreds
All your erroneous notions of truth

That make you fight within yourself, dear one,
And with others,

Causing the world to weep
On too many fine days.

God wants to manhandle us,
Lock us inside of a tiny room with Himself
And practice His dropkick.

The Beloved sometimes wants
To do us a great favor:

Hold us upside down
And shake all the nonsense out.

But when we hear
He is in such a playful drunken mood
Most everyone I know
Quickly packs their bags and hightails it
Out of town.

( The Gift by Hafiz. trans. Daniel Ladinsky)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hafiz

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With Love,
Cyber Dervish
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TONY O'CLERY


Namaste All,

My late father served on the NW Frontier/Peshawar as an officer
in the
Indian Army,( now Pakistan), a lot of Irish did.

Once after a battle in the N Africa, where Indian troops had
helped
defeat the enemy, my father was escorting some Italian
prisoners of
war out to ships for transhipment. One fellow was quite pleased
with
his treatment, that he gave my father an Islamic ring from N
Africa.
He told my father it was a talisman and would protect him etc.

Back in Peshawar my father was involved in actions against the
Pathans
in the NW,and Afghanistan. He said they were very tough and
every
child could shoot like a marksman, and live and march on
nothing.

One occasion they were collecting donations to the war effort in
Europe, and the village headman told my father. I hope you buy
better
planes to bomb the Germans than you use to bomb us.

On another occasion they went into a village that had just
recently
fought the Ghurkas, and it had been bloody. At this point my
father's
life was in great danger and he and his comrades were being
beaten in
a circle. Fortunately the headman noticed the Islamic ring, my
father
was wearing and put the beatings to a stop. No doubt they were
bemused
by an Islamic ring on an Irishman, but as the Italian POW, said,
'it
will protect you.'

This is how important hospitality and religion is to the
Pathans/Aghans. I do not envy any soldiers going into their
territory....Peace and jaw jaw jaw, is better than war
war war, as Churchill said...ONS....Tony.

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XAN

>Subject: Re: What is the Anti-Christ?

~ It strikes me this much-used term may have come from a mis-
print.
What if someone oh-so-long-ago was talking about the ante-
christ...
the space one gets into just before realizing the divine is their
own Self.

Xan

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