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Saturday June 9, 2001





Hello,

Excuse this broadcast message, but you might find it useful.

If you hold regular or semi-regular meetings or get-togethers, and would
like to list your group on the Nonduality Salon website, please go to
<http://www.nonduality.com/meet4.htm>, to get an idea of what's there,
and fill out the form on the page or just send me a normal email about
your group, and I'll post the information.

Also, if you are open to meeting others in your community, no matter
where in the world you are, let me know, and I'll list your location at
<http://www.nonduality.com/meet5.htm>, and advise others in your area of
your posting.

Thanks,

Jerry


PAUL COTE: escape from real life

fwd'd by Jan Sultan from allspirit

>Beautifully put Paul! God created the Universe as a mirror to see himself
>and Love himself. Who are we to deny Him this pleasure. Many realized
>beings experience the non-duality and then come and rest in their heart
>chakras. Take the examples of Hafiz and Rumi!
>
>At 09.06.01-05:27 AM, Paul Cote wrote:
>>Right Gill, I agree... The spiritual path means more to me than just
>>being in the present moment. It has to do with my heart. Getting to
>>know my heart in order to understand what I am doing in relationship
>>to my heart. Getting in tune with the heart. Understanding why it is
>>open sometimes and gushing love and apparently closed at other
>>times... I believe it has to do with my own attitude, actions,
>>thoughts, tendencies and fickleness rather than the heart's... yet I
>>am integral with my heart! Most of the chatter surrounding advaita
>>can lead one to a false sense of completion. Sure, one can grok that
>>all is one, and even believe they experience all is one--or that they
>>are a robot and whats the use?. But the heart knows the answer and
>>it is as simple as this...
>>
>>If one is in love, his heart is open, he is not under the domination
>>of his ego. He has attained, at least for that moment some humility
>>If his heart is blocked, then the ego is in control and he is bound
>>by ego. In my case, a lot of the time, there is a problem because
>>the heart is blocked. Even though I have experienced great love, the
>>Self, consciousness, the blue pearl, kundalini, sound, light, the
>>present moment, the witness, transcendent formlessness, can
>>understand advaita.... even though I can be fully present, when the
>>heart is not clear, I am not satisfied. All of that other crap is
>>pure baloney. To fool myself otherwise is ridiculous.
>>
>>So, the adventure is to learn how to be loving all the time... to
>>follow the heart.... whereas we were previously controlled by the
>>fight or flight reactions of the ego, after some realization, we need
>>to become aware of the God within the heart and find out what pleases
>>Him.
>>
>>This is my own expression, and not aimed at anyone but me.
>>Nevertheless, I would love to get to know others who are also
>>learning how to come into loving relationship with "the Friend, the
>>Heart, the Guru within".
>>
>>How do you listen to your heart? What happens when you obey? What
>>happens when you don't?
>>
>>Love,
>>
>>Paul
>
>________________________________
>Love makes the heart laugh.
>I wish you Love. [God is Love]
>CyberDervish
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*** UG Krishnamurti

JERRY

It's more like a pyramid than a basket. More like a complex
spiritual-mental-emotional structure contructed for the purpose of entombing
subtle mummifications of knowledge, such as the mummy of 'self', of 'nothing
is happening', of 'all is sameness', and so on.

Come to think of it, U.G. kinda looks like a mummy!

ECKHART TOLLE interview excerpt here, see url for rest.

Some of you may find the issues discussed in this interview to be of interest, or even, dare I say, "helpful"... Some highlighting of possible
reasons behind differences in the approaches of Buddha, Ramana, and Jesus is included near the end. Glo

http://www.wie.org/j18/tolle.asp Eckhart Tolle

AC: In your book The Power of Now you state that "The ultimate purpose of the world lies not within the world but in transcendence
of the world." Could you please explain what you mean?

ET: Transcending the world does not mean to withdraw from the world, to no longer take action, or to stop interacting with people.
Transcendence of the world is to act and to interact without any self-seeking. In other words, it means to act without seeking to enhance
one's sense of self through one's actions or one's interactions with people. Ultimately, it means not needing the future anymore for one's
fulfillment or for one's sense of self or being. There is no seeking through doing, seeking an enhanced, more fulfilled, or greater sense of self
in the world. When that seeking isn't there anymore, then you can be in the world but not be of the world. You are no longer seeking for
anything to identify with out there.

AC: Do you mean that one has given up an egotistical, materialistic relationship to the world?

ET: Yes, it means no longer seeking to gain a sense of self, a deeper or enhanced sense of self. Because in the normal state of
consciousness, what people are looking for through their activity is to be more completely themselves. The bank robber is looking for that
in some way. The person who is striving for enlightenment is also looking for it because he or she is seeking to attain a state of perfection, a
state of completion, a state of fullness at some point in the future. There is a seeking to gain something through one's activities. They are
seeking happiness, but ultimately they are seeking themselves or you could say God; it comes down to the same thing. They are seeking
themselves, and they are seeking where it can never be found, in the normal, unenlightened state of consciousness, because the
unenlightened state of consciousness is always in the seeking mode. That means they are of the world—in the world and of the world.

AC: You mean that they are looking forward in time?

ET: Yes, the world and time are intrinsically connected. When all self-seeking in time ceases, then you can be in the world without being of
the world.

AC: What exactly do you mean when you say that the purpose of the world lies in the transcendence of it?

ALAN KUNTZ

from Norvene Vest's "No Moment Too Small"--

"We are called to be loving, to be whole, to be so filled with God that
God's glory pours through us. Yet we cannot make ourselves into this
living flame. Silence as discipline brings us to the monk/seeker's discovery:
transformation does not happen because we do more, but because we allow
God to work in us. Nothing in our power enables us to make the dramatic
shift from elimination of a few faults to the life of abundance to which we are
called and for which we long. This awareness of personal incapacity is
one of the essential gifts of silence."

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