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Tuesday, June 5

perhaps it is high time to be done
with consorts of all kinds.
for how many lifetimes have you been searching
for the beloved? yearning for that perfect lover. rejoice at finding them
for a moment and then alas
their body turns to rotting putrid flesh
and where have they gone? or the boredom of day to day life makes you want
to flee
and find a new perfect lover.
fleshy lovers, dream lovers,
where is the one who will love you perfectly?
where is the one you can perfectly love?
as long as you make yourself into a somebody
you will make an other, many others
this is an endless round of duality and suffering
be done with an individuated identity
be done with the round of yearning for union
be done with the round of birth and death

bright ones, eternal one, know this well

you alone exist!

--cee
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Andrew Macnab

...Turning the light
to shine within,
turn it around again.

Vast,
unthinkable,
you can’t face it
or turn away from it.

The root of it.

Meet the Awakened Ancestors,
become intimate with the teachings,
lash grass into thatch for a hut
and don’t tire so easily.

Let it go,
release,
and your life of a hundred years
vanishes.

Open your hands.

Walk around.

Innocence.

The swarm of words,
and little stories
are just to loosen you
from where you are stuck.

If you want to know
the one in the hermitage
who never dies,

you can’t avoid this skin-bag
right here.

Shitou Xiqien (700-790)

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GLORIA LEE


It's sheer illusion
to try to separate
the phenomena
from the Reality,
and then try
to love phenomena first.
It just doesn't happen that way.
Naturally
we end in failure.

You don't have to try
to achieve
unity with others.
It is fallacious thinking
and doing.
Realize the unity
of everything
and everyone
within you
first.

- Swami Amar Jyoti

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MARCIA:
This is mental mumbo jumbo. All that is being said is that
the solution is the problem. That is still a division. The
mind cannot come up with its own solution.

What we have to contribute is in our heart and it is free of
mental mumbo jumbo.

DAN:
Marcia --

Psychological/emotional attempt
to get from here to there, through
solving or contributing, is not.

No effort to move or stay still,
to change or remain the same,
nor to have something
to contribute, get, or get to.

As the attempt to get or become
ceases, the misperception
that there is a knowing entity
apart ceases.

It is possible to say, to some extent,
something about an attempt that
ceases. It's not possible to say
*what is* as that attempt is not.
There is no way to say it,
because it is only clear that one
*is* it -- saying something about
*what is* makes it something limited,
to be transferred by words or ideas --
which is not what *it is*...

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JERRY (found on another website)

Voluntary Rolling Blackout Voluntary Blackout - The First Day
of Summer, Thursday, June 21, 2001, 7 - 10 p.m. worldwide,
all time zones

In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies and lack of
emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels,
there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the first day
of Summer, June 21 at 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. in any time zone (this
will roll it across the planet). It's a simple protest and a
symbolic act. Turn out your lights from 7 p.m. until 10 p.m.
(your local time) on June 21. Unplug whatever you can unplug
in your house. Light a candle for the Sun, kiss, make love,
play games, tell ghost stories, do something instead of
watching television, have fun in the dark. Forward this email
as widely as possible, to your government representatives and
environmental contacts. Let them know we want global
education, participation and funding in conservation,
efficiency and alternative energy efforts - and an end to
over exploitation and misuse of the Earth's resources.

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GENE POOLE

Proposal: That NDS can be used as a means of refining
concepts and definitions having to do with nonduality; that
this can be done cooperatively and productively; and that
those who wish to participate wholly or in part in that
endeavor, may do so as they wish.

Further: That Jerry and anyone else so inclined, make an
effort to compile the resultant information into what could
be considered to be a 'modern relational database of topics
related to nonduality'.

Goal: To cast a wide net, to capture modern terms and
concepts, to relate such to ancient and traditional ideas,
thus to eventually have access to all logically associated
ideas concerning nonduality, in a form which is either a
carefully organized text file, or an actual relational
database, or both.

Eventually, this information could be published on paper and
web, as an aid to those who have need of such a refined body
of opinions.

A skillfully compiled hyperlinked version of the text file
would be useful, not only as a web resource, but as a
standalone document as well.

An excellent working example can be found here:

<http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/DEFAULT.html>

Click on 'project organization' to view an example of a
topically driven page of hyperlinks.

Opinions solicited...

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GREG GOODE

Maybe this can get a ball rolling.

In the sphere of *talking* about nonduality, nonduality
includes seeing how dualities don't make any ultimate sense,
and are never really experienced. But of course some
dualities are more subtle and sticky than others. One might
think to have transcended all of them just because the
dualities of, say, attraction and aversion don't seem to
arise any more.

Here are some of the more tenaciously held dualities, whether
as belief or as assumptions, or as the shadowy limiting
factors of experience:


Duality/Nonduality
Creator/Creation
Truth/Falsity
Cause/Effect
Thought/Object
Inner/Outer
Pleasant/Unpleasant
Mental/Physical
Free will/Determinism
Good/Evil
Real/Unreal
Self/Other
Subject/Object

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