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Sunday, 11-Mar-01

It Doesn't Matter

Michael:
It does not matter what you may have done or left
undone.

Are you the cruelest, stupidest thing that ever
walked on two legs?

It doesn't matter!

You are the pure and perfect self.

Trust me, trust me not.
It does not matter!
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Right Now

Michael:
Right now there is no separation between you and
the totality of being.

Throw away your logic. Throw away your feelings.
Throw away even your hopes.
What good have they done so far?

Just toss back your head and laugh!

HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!
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Thoughts on Self-Realization

Andrew/James:
James, what you say here lies under what I'm trying to
express.
I see all the world at this play, all except us adult
humans, or most of us,
most of the
time,
who seem stuck and full of unrealized potential, afraid
to try, afraid of
failing.

a.
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Working definition of "Jnani"

Dan:
This point is so tiny,
that no jnani, person,
or camel can enter.

That is its beauty,
and its totality --
beyond even
totality.

-- Jiann
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Unfinal realizing

Tim:
>T: (snip) What ever is, now... is "true nature."
> Including whatever can be maintained, repeated or
> anchored. It is not discovery of true
>nature, but it is true nature.
>
>There is nothing apart. Smoke does not stain the sky.

Hey, Tim!

It's true and well-said that smoke does not stain
the sky.
And true that there is nothing other than true nature.

It is the idea that there is a continuing
maintainer who needs to be maintained,
that leads to the
intent and project to maintain something
(a religion, a thought-process, a being,
a becoming, a having, a smoke-free
piece of pie-sky for me).

In that intent is friction, as if there could
be something to be maintained, something
that could lead to its demise, and some
meaning in keeping it going.

And, as you say, none of that interferes
with the frictionless. The difficulty is
that while there persists the notion of
a being that maintains being, there is
clouding of "knowing" by the very intent
to perpetuate that process which is mistaken
as a being.

Where there is the intent to find
an anchor, there is the perception
that there exists or could exist
something in which to anchor,
thus, the "friction"
in which reality (openness)
and unreality (a being trying to anchor)
try to coexist but can't.

"You can't serve God and Mammon
at the same time" ... You can't
live with/as "no object perceived"
while perceiving as real "an object in a world of objects"

Although it is true that it is a cloudless sky,
and no object ever came to be -- there is
the knowing of self as a process in which an
object contends with objects that seems to
be clouding, and so is a clouding as long
at the attempt to exist by persisting, persists ...

Extricating reality from unreality,
it is clear that nothing was extricated,
and nothing was ever bound.

Yet, this isn't known until/as "extrication"...

Although there is only sky,
the attempt to keep a space
for oneself clear of smoke,
leads to missing that smoke
never stains ...

-- Unknowingly,
Dan
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Mirrors of the Mind

Dan:
Namaste, Jan.

Your catscan
was food for my brainpan,
eaten as an offering
in the ashram
of cyberspaciousness.

A cool cat with a direct path
leaving no footprints
when running forward
through the backdoor.

Inspired, untired,
a caterwauling
catcophony everfired ..
a symphony without end
blending colorful sounds
from a friend!
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Burn up the night of self-existence

Dan:
It is the senses and their sense-objects,
the body constructed as an object of
sense, the thinker inferred by thought
thinking about sense-objects.

This is how "I", "we", and "it" came
about ...

There is nothing to get rid of here ...

Just stop cognizing objects, the subject
dissappears, and there is only
"knowing" ...


Cyber Dervish:
" What does it mean to learn the knowledge of
God's Unity? To consume yourself in the
presence of the One. If you wish to shine like
day, burn up the night of self-existence.
Dissolve in the Being who is everything.
You grabbed hold of "I" and "we,"
and this dualism is your ruin.

- Rumi"

[Version by Camille and Kabir Helminski
"Rumi: Daylight"
Threshold Books, 1994]
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Satsang Regulation Imminent

Jerry/Xan:
>I woke up this morning thinking that satsang in the
western world needs to be upset a little. I recommend
reverse satsang. That's where the satsang guy is required
to ask the devotee\student questions. A
little reverse Satsang might be a good thing.

~ This does happen.... especially in one-to-one satsang.
Take my word for it.

But I am wondering, Jer.... Is there some universal yet
secret Satsang Overseeing Board that requires anything
of anyone? Are you recommending such an authority,
perhaps to take the place of the infinite wisdom and
timing of Grace?

>A good man who handles all the Satsang schedules
for a large city, asked me what I do when someone asks
to be on my website and they're not quite nondual. I said
I make room for them. Apparently he has
been refusing to place certain teachers on his
Satsang schedule for reasons which do have validity.
He's not in an easy position. But I
hope he can find room for them. Every attempt
should be made to be
all-inclusive.

~ Does this mean the SOB is going to issue an edict
that anybody who has anything to say on any subject
from any level of awareness should and must be allowed
to speak in anyone's schedule? And what are valid
reasons, according to the SOB, or according to you?

Whatever happened to your philosophy that whatever
happens happens?

with love
Xan
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Susan Dane Speaking Updates and More

A special note to NDS friends:

I wanted to share the update (below) with you all because
I think you will find Dr. Peter Gilboy a fascinating
speaker, if you can tune in tomorrow
morning on WBAI 99.5 FM radio, (or via one of the
internet leads that Jerry has posted in the past when
I was also interviewed by Marjorie Moore on WBAI.)
Peter's dissertation was on non-dual mysticism
(From Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley)--and he is
not only well-versed in East West religious and mystical
traditions, he is an incredible and genuine human
being. But to hear someone of this background be
able to discuss politcs and
national security--well, dare I say--there is something
especially "non-dual"
about it.

Hoping this finds you all well. And that you are able to
tune in. If not, visit his website at www.petergilboy.com.
And if you like political
thrillers, you can order his book from Amazon.com.

Susan

Dear Friends, Family, Site Visitors, NDS friends and
WBAI Listeners:

Below are some important updates and news items:

* March 24th New York Seminar postponed until April 7th
* Marjorie Moore to host her own new radio program
* Dr. Peter Gilboy to be Marjorie's first guest!
* My Book to be available by mail after April 5th: Order Now!

WBAI sponsored March 24th Seminar:

We've decided to move the date back to April 7th
for many reasons. It will still be an all-day Saturday
seminar / workshop 10:00-5:00, in Manhattan. It
will also include a Special Galley Proof Preview Edition
of my book: When All Systems Fail: Spiritual Answers
Beyond Self-Help.
All of you who have been writing me with questions,
this will be the ideal opportunity to hear them
discussed and answered. It will also be a chance to
meet other people who are asking a lot of the same
questions. It's not too late to sign up.
Contact me directly via email.

Marjorie Moore to host her own new radio program

This is very exciting news! Starting tomorrow,
Marjorie is going back on the air, to host her new program,
"Sunrise with Marjorie Moore." WBAI 99.5 FM.
Weekday mornings bright and early at 6:00 a.m. For
those of you who don't know Marjorie, you are in for a
treat. She is a wonderful talk show host who
brings together thinkers, writers, poets, and social
reformers to explore thought-provoking ideas and difficult
social issues in the light of genuine spirituality.
Her program will bring much needed insight and genuine
healing not just to WBAI but to the entire metropolitan
New York community. And her first guest
(tomorrow morning!) will be my life-long and best friend (this is
an understatement) former DIA Intelligence agent,
Dr. Peter Gilboy, author of
Operation Fantasy Plan (William Morrow).

Dr. Peter Gilboy to be Marjorie's first guest!

Hummm...What does Peter Gilboy do when he is not
editing my web site, book, and other writings?
He writes political spy thrillers, and gives nation-wide
radio interviews on a wide variety of subjects.
During the Vietnam war, Peter trained at the Defense
Language Institute in Monterey, became fluent in
Vietnamese and then served as a spy handler for
the Defense Intelligence Agency. After Vietnam,
he went on to become a specialist in Southeast Asian
studies, and then earned a Ph.D. in cross-cultural
East-West mysticism and religious traditions. He brings
to the subject of national security and
intelligence, the ability to explore that thin line
we are always walking--where human necessity
(in this case national security) meets moral
and ethical dilemmas. Tomorrow morning, he and
Marjorie will be asking "How far does a nation go to
protect its principles, if in order to do so, it has
to break those principles?" You can buy Peter's book
Operation Fantasy Plan from Amazon.com, and visit his
web site at www.petergilboy.com

My BOOK to be available by mail after April 5th: Order Now!

Thank you everyone for your interest in obtaining
copies of When All Systems Fail: Spiritual Answers
Beyond Self-Help. I have had requests from England,
Africa, Canada, France, Switzerland, Mexico, and
all over the States. This with no real advertising, to
speak of. To me this shows that what I am
talking about is the universal desire we all share
to break free of the human mind's limiting perspective
and come into the space of genuine healing, where
Spirit lives its life as us.

As you know, I was originally offering a "Galley Proof Special Preview
Edition" to WBAI listeners as part of the upcoming all-day seminar. However,
everyone who visits the website seems to want a copy. Even if we found a
publisher tomorrow, (we are just beginning to look) the book wouldn't hit the
bookstore shelves for another year. So, I will be printing up some advanced
copies and will make this "Special Preview Edition" available through the
site.

The edition is a 250 page (photocopied on quality paper) spiral bound
edition. The cost is $30 plus $4.00 priority mail within the States. If you
would like a copy, please email me your request, and then send a check or
Money Order to my mailing address at: Susan Dane Seminars
2124 Broadway suite 221
New York, NY 10023

The advance ordering will greatly help with edition
estimates and printing costs.

This pretty much wraps things up from my corner.
As you can see there is lots going on, and I want to
deeply thank you for your ongoing and passionate
support!

Warmly,
Susan
www.susandane.com
Spirituality Free From All Systems

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