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Tuesday, January 30


NDS seems to be getting busy again. Are you ready for a lengthy and rich
Highlights?

love to all,
Jerry
http://www.nonduality.com

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LUKE LENINTINE

Greetings NDS!! I`ve decided to stick it out here and see how
much I can absorb. My goal is definitely towards a greater
awareness, and I can honestly say, despite all the hubbub about
there not being a path, I simply feel lost in a forest. I can
easily remind myself every second for a determined time period,
that this ego-self in you and me is merely the product of living
with a conscious and that it should be taken with a grain of
salt. That we`re all the same, as the trees and the birds and
the bees. But after about an hour of this, I only feel as if I
accomplished nothing. I have heard from a few of us, that at
first it may only seem like accomplishing nothing, but if given
time, possibly years and years, a buzzing will occur inside of
me, ever so faint, and it will act like a gravity, pulling me
closer and closer everyday toward my much saught after
transcendence of the ego-self until I`m...well...I can`t know
now I guess. Is this all correct? I guess I`ve placed security
in your answer instead of myself, which sucks, but I really feel
this sense of dying, like I`m running out of time and it`s a
race to the death of my ego-self, so if I`m to start running in
the wrong direction, what a waste that would be. Unless, every
direction has sidewalks with the cracks in between, in which
case there wouldn`t be a wrong direction as long as I keep
aware. I realize this group is concerned with more than the
rambling of someone lost, so I`ll stop there. I have a feeling
the answers I desired will come so I`m content.

Moving on, I wish to apologize for the problems I have caused
through Yahoo. I am now rerouted through yahoo, and I hope when
I send this letter all will be well. Oh, and Hobbes, I thought
this was fresh:

"If you truely say to me that you do not understand, I must ask
how do you know enough to not understand? You must first know
enough to not understand then you can freely not understand."
--Hobbes

Happy to become,
Luke

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JAMES TRAVERSE

Hi Lilianna, I am having some troubles posting to the list
through Yahoo. As it turns out Jerry forwarded your message to
me. (I'm also sending a copy of this to Jerry- maybe he'll post
it to the list for me.)

Thanks for the warm welcome.

I do not know of anyone in Europe that offers Hatha Yoga from a
global perspective. The inspiration for the approach I take to
yoga came from Jean Klein. Jean was from Europe and has a
significant following there, so I suspect that someone is
teaching in this way but I haven't discovered them as yet. The
only person I know that does offer nondual yoga is Richard
Miller who lives in California. He calls it Advaitayana Yoga and
his web address is: www.nondual.com

In the Light,

OM James

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JERRY

I personally invite and urge any and all to post requests to
meet other nondual types in their community. Or you can write me
personally and I'll make an anonymous request for you on the
list or privately.

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Thank to Sandeep, Harsha, and Larry for supplying the following
addresses in case people want to donate to helping the people
suffering the earthquake in India:


The CRY site (thanks Larry)
<http://us.cry.org/gujarat/>

The American Red Cross site:
<http://www.redcross.org/>

These will also be available on my home page:
<http://www.nonduality.com>

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HUMANITATE

There is a risk in someone new posting here regardless of
age. They might get ambushed and torn apart (cringing as I write
this). Is this a good thing? Is it a rite of passage?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

DAN

It is reality that tears me apart,
this list is just a start ...

Who is it that dies in the earthquake?
Who is it that drowns in the submarine?
Who is dying of starvation, tuberculosis,
AIDS, and war?

Who is it that becomes extinct every day
that the oceans and skies are polluted?
Who is tortured every day in laboratories
designed to further knowledge?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls.

And ask not whom is in the Phantom Toll Booth.

Just put your left foot in and your left foot out,
Do the hokey pokey and turn yourself about.

You're what it's all about.

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WHITE WOLF


Meditation on the Wild Wolfe
(For Ken Phelan)

on a midday slope at the heart of spring
the earth warming under a thick russet blanket
a soft brown accumulation of last falls nettles
a lone white wolfe rests in the slanting sunlight

he is the alpha male
golden beams radiate and gleam
from his dreamy and steady gaze
what is the light that is in his eyes

below him is a lush grassy meadow choirs
the first brave harbingers of another summer

a delicate spray of new color arises from sleep
a lone dark wolfe rests amdist all that is fertile

she is the omega female
her fragile ears at attention
dancing with the shifting breeze
what is the music that
she hears

the mystic mind of the male wolfe is still
resting beyond the far pole of the universe
where the light is so bright there is no glare
brilliance penetrating, illuminating all it sees

white wolfe sits on the summit of the kosmos
staring into the steady eyes of apollo himself
black wolfe lies at the center of the kosmos
listening to the canticle of gaia
herself

what do we not see that white wolfe sees
he sees Heaven’s light dancing in the holy fire

what,do we not hear that dark wolfe hears
she hears Earth’s music laughing in the holy wind

Oh my brother and sisters as the wild wolfe does
we must ascent the white mountain as the alpha male
we must walk through the dark valley as the omega
female

We must still our mystic minds and open your sacred hearts,
step into the holy fire of our Heavenly Father’s eternal dancing,
fly in the holy wind of our Earthly Mother’s immortal laughing

Celebrate the paegeant of Heaven and Earth choiring forth
Celebrate the moment and sin no more against all of Creation

Running the dancing and singing the laughing of limitless love itself

We will see the Father dancing in all directions
We will hear the Mother laughing in all directions
As is was yesterday, is today and will
be tomorrow

Ascending to our Beginning, Descending to our Ending
We discover that we and all creatures are kissed by infinite love.

- -Mark Christopher Valentine

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HARSHA

Nondualism is understood and known by abiding in Being as
Awareness. Self is not an object to be "known" separately from
who you already are. As Sri Ramana used to say, it is all an
open secret. When the mind is purified and ripe, it knows in an
instant. Sadhana is meant to purify the mind and make it
peaceful so that it surrenders to the Lord of the Heart without
the least resistance.

The Self cannot be Known. The Self Knows It Self, by It Self.
through It Self as the Self Alone. That the ancients called
Sat-Chit-Ananda.

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There are many organizations actively helping people involved in
disasters across the globe and the victims of the earthquake in
India as well. For those in the U.S. who are not familiar with
all such organizations and their work and are wondering to whom
the appropriate donations should be sent, the "American Red
Cross" is a good choice. They have a special International
Response Fund geared towards helping people internationally and
are usually among some of the first organizations to mobilize
resources and become active in the affected area of the world.
They also have local chapters across the U.S. to help the local
communities as well.

American Red Cross website states the following:

"The best way to help disaster victims is through a financial
donation to the American Red Cross. A financial contribution
allows disaster victims to quickly obtain basic necessities for
themselves and their families, while stimulating the
disaster-affected local economy."

"Contributions to the American Red Cross, a tax-exempt
organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue
Code, are deductible for computing income and estate taxes."

I would like to encourage you (especially those in the U.S.) to
go to American Red Cross website and learn more about this
organization and to see how you can help.

http://www.redcross.org/

Love to all
Harsha

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GENE POOLE

Link to latest Ashcroft lies, world-dream politics:

On topic, is the concept of the workings of identity, and how
identity strives to perpetuate itself.

Here is a link:

<http://www.salon.com/news/col/cona/2001/01/30/ashcroft/index.html?CP=
RDF&DN=310>

To Salon magazine's online edition.

You will see, how our vast societal conspiracy to allow this
'machine' of identity to remain unexamined, can lead us all to
ruin.

Self-realization has to do with honesty; those who evade honesty
with themselves, are incapable of honesty with others.

If wisdom is a quality we desire in our 'leaders', it is sadly
lacking in J Ashcroft.

Plumbing the depths of the world-dream, we see so many examples
of this. This is what it means to 'awaken TO the dream'. To see
how the dreamers conspire with each-other, to avoid
understanding what is going on, is to also bust your own
rackets.

There is no difference between J Ashcroft and Gene Poole, save
one; which is, that Gene Poole knows the difference between the
world-dream and otherwise, and does not pretend otherwise.

Yes, the world-dream is the environment in which we share our
communications, but this is to understand that the communication
goes from one, through a medium (language) to another, who is
essentially the same as the one. Differences may be seen, and
felt, and it is in these differences which we find the fuel for
our own growth.

We may eventually see just how 'identity' is the placeholder
which obscures Self.

Treasuring aspects of identity, of personality, of gender, of
race, is the behaviour which creates the objects of the
world-dream, which then necessitate complex navigational skills
such as language.

To avoid running afoul of the sacred objects of others, we
unwittingly build objects of our own, which then must be
defended. This is the very activity which 'nonduality' is
prescribed to rememdy.

One who is nothing, cannot impact or break any object, but such
a one, may be accused of having 'no allegiances'. One who is
nobody, has nothing to defend, but can be accused of 'having no
values'.

Those who display and parade their values, are worshipping a
graven image, a 'false self'. It is no wonder, that 'nonduality'
in any form (such as the natural state of a newborn baby, or an
innocent animal) is feared and shunned; by contrast, the newborn
baby is superior to any identity.

In this regard, we may see that the further that one goes in the
process of 'identity-building and maintenance', the further one
also removes oneself from the emptiness which is the natural
state of awareness.

Now, we will see those who oppose one set of values, using
another set of values as a force, to change or maintain a
certain world-dream structure. Those who take residence in one
set of values, create a fortress, a stronghold from which to
combat other values. In this way is the world-dream turned into
a battleground, and many people are expected (by the chief
value-advocates) to sacrifice themselves to maintain a given
value-fortress.

To see that you, as an individual, can bypass the whole mess, is
possible.

If enough people bypass the whole mess, there will not be enough
combatants to have a war.

"Aware, or a war", is a possible slogan.

If the value of emptiness becomes widely known, each person who
now is the slave of identity, will know self-mastery.

To accomplish successfully the dissemination of the value of
emptiness, there can be no resting place for identity, no alter
for the graven image. But there must be acknowledgement, by
those desiring to disseminate the value of emptiness, of the
possible difficulties of letting go of the objects and values of
the world-dream.

Those who fear the advent of the dissolution of the objects of
the world dream, will combat the value of emptiness, always
seeking to substitute (what is considered to be) a superior
object or value-set.

Please disseminate the value of emptiness.

Gene Poole

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PETER WOOD

i would like to know of anyone living in the UK.
I live in Gloucestershire.
Please make contact with me
love and happiness be granted to everyone

peter

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Hello one and all:

I'm just curious as to where people live? I'm from... Atlanta,
Georgia. Are there sections of the country where more people are
nondual, more enlightened?..etc...

Yours truly,

Humanitate.

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south Texas...and I am the only one within a maximum radius or
more who know what the term non-duality means...and I haven't
reached it (non-duality) yet...my opinion is that it is
innerself directed outward to bring all into innerself...and if
this sounds hokey, or romantic, or anyone takes exception to any
of it...please don't hollar, I cry real easy, but you may
comment gently to set me straight :o)

blessings, beth

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Dear Humanitate,

Seattle, WA. area here.

Subscribers to this list are scattered around the globe, but
concentrated on the North American continent.

There is more 'nondual activity' going on in areas like
California, some parts of India, Germany, etc. as Jerry pointed
out.

As for 'enlightenment'? That's only happening in one place...
where you are.

Love,

Omkara


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ZORAN

Dear Friends,
At the suggestion of some members of our group I am posting the
schedule of the Subtle Self Work® workshops and events with
Judith Blackstone for the upcoming season: Subtle Self Work is a
contemporary method for realizing nonduality. It provides
exercises for awakening nondual awareness in the whole body, for
refining perception and for relating with other people while
remaining in this dimension. It also shows how to release
psychological holding patterns from the body, energy and mind.
This method can be helpful to anyone interested in nonduality as
it does not interfere with but enhances one's already existing
practice. Subtle Self Work was developed by Judith Blackstone,
author of "The Enlightenment Process" and "The Subtle Self".

All events listed below are with Judith, except Sept. 3-7 with
Zoran

April 27-29 at Esalen Institute, Big Sur, "Subtle Self" To
register callEsalen Institute at (831) 667-3005

May 9-13 in Amsterdam, Holland. "Introduction to Subtle Self
Work"To register call (845) 679-7005

Aug. 3-5 at Esalen Institute, Big Sur, CA "Oneness and
Separateness" Focusing on the relationship aspect of Subtle Self
Work. "The Subtle Self Work exercises are used to help partners
attune to each other from the source of awareness, love and
sensation in the subtle core of the body, and to experience
themselves and each other in the unbounded, non-dual space of
fundamental consciousness while remaining grounded in their own
bodies and selves. Partners also learn how to balance and
increase the exchange of subtle energy between them." To
register call Esalen Institute at (831) 667-3005

Sept. 3-7 at Esalen Institute, Big Sur, CA "Realizing the True
Self" 5-day meditation retreat, to register call Esalen
Institute at (831) 667-3005

Fall 2001 One-year training begins for those interested in
teaching Subtle Self Work and/or using it in their work with
clients: "Subtle Self Work and Psychology" Woodstock, New York.
For more info and to register call (845) 679-7005 * * *

Ongoing Woodstock, NY and New York City; workshops, classes and
private sessions in Subtle Self Work with Judith, and in
Integral Therapy with Zoran; phone sessions available as well
More info on these and other events can be found at our site
www.realizationcenter.com Or by calling us at (845) 679-7005

Regards, Zoran

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MATTHEW FILES

Here we are with all these filters that we "see" the world
through and it is obvious that they aren't going to just
disappear like magic someday. If the right drugs are taken, one
won't be aware of them for a while, but they will be right there
again when the chemical effect wears off, because they haven't
been dealt with only avoided. If one takes enough of the drug,
he won't be aware of them permanently, but the functional mind
will dissolve too. Enough filters can be wiped out with enough
drugs but then there won't be anything to appreciate what's
there when there aren't any filters. That's the same as having
filters. I realize this may not sound terribly nondualistic, but
consciousness needs to look back upon itself to be conscious,
otherwise it is simply a mental point to be discussed
philosophically which is a totally irrelevant and wasteful
process. It is possible to be perfectly conscious and have no
filters, but if that consciousness can't be looked back upon,
there might as well be filters and unconsciousness.
Consciousness and unconsciousness end up being exactly the same
thing. This is the perfect paradox; the observer who reallt
isn't an observer because there is no duality, and nonetheless
is an observer. Perfect self-remembering has no rememberer and
nothing to remember. But in terms of communication, we call it
self- remembering. Not Self with a big "S" or self with a little
"s", or any of that nonsense that actually distracts and
confuses what should be tacitly obvious.

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ED ARRONS

Being...beyond the computer

(This might not apply to everyone, of course.)

There is an obvious tendency to be awed by the power of
technology, to get comfortable with it, and then to take it for
granted. This has been true of the many technologies and their
conveniences of the 20th century. This pattern also seems true
of the computer-network and the ease with which communication
via the written word occurs in this medium.

There is a sub-trend that goes along with this tendency notably:
a preference for the disembodied use of words over communication
which includes the interchange of mindbody signals. This
suggests that while the computer- network appears to connect
people together, in actuality it may be driving them further
apart.

Every technology is like a two edged sword: it can be but an
extension of the "world dream" from which some think they have
awakened...or it can be an opportunity to bring one to a full
realization of self. This is a matter of seeing clearly what the
computer network *is*, what it does, and what it does not do.

What I'm suggesting is the possibility of using the computer
network in a way that restores the inclusion of bodymind signals
in communication. This requires the understanding that
emanations from the bodymind are not localized; they extend in
space-time in a way that makes remote viewing and distant
healing possible. The ability to transmit and receive those
signals has been greatly reduced by the misuse of technology
over the years.

Restoring sensitivity to bodymind signals may require a deep
listening to the written words that goes beyond the words. Each
pattern of words contains a unique tonal signature, not unlike
sheet music, that becomes discernible with practice, the
practice of Being with...

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JEFF RASMUSSEN

Heaven can wait, visit hell before the tourists get there

just a snippet from a day-long meditation. {Of course, all this
is hard to put in words, but hopefully you'll have a similar
experience and can make a comment or two. I'll blather out some
feeble words.}

I was doing a vichara meditation, and was able to hold a sense
of I-ness without much difficulty.

I was experiencing a physical ego duality, which is what I call
it when there is this chattering ego and a very subtle observing
ego--"physical" because there is a sense of the observing ego
being behind the chattering one.

Often in meditation this physical 2-ego game is like one of
those Necker cubes and the two egos switch places, and the
result is frustration, getting sucked up into the game.

But this time the chattering ego whispered "you know this is
what the ego *does*, if it weren't duality it wouldn't be the
ego." Then to the observing ego it seemed to say "it's no big
deal, just step up here and join me." That is a very rare
occurence as I'm often stuck on this "ego is bad, must be
annilated" trip, instead of making friends with it, letting it
have its say.

So there was this physical sense of the observing ego stepping
up to the chattering one, and when they joined, then there was
this fountain of white light and confetti (reds and blues,
metallic-like confetti) streamed out of my top chakra. The
openning for the white light & confetti started to drift
downward and this sense of "well, how nice the ego's going to
die so that heaven can appear".

then, pshaw, one of our cats jumped up in my lap. Not nimble of
foot nor quiet in announcing her presence, she startled me. I'd
lost the mojo, and so much for heaven.

So I was in some dark cave with living walls and there was some
cloaked figure leading me from behind. I knew if I got scared,
I'd freak and the meditation would be over. So I felt, well,
let's see what this dark place is about. The walls it turned out
were made up of physical layers of anger and resentment, the
layers were like baklava in texture, so they crumbled away....

Questions? Does this remind anyone of anything they've
experienced? Any bardo stuff here? {I'll need to look back at
the tibetian book of the dead}. If anyone likes to interpret
this stuff, I'd be interested.

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MICHAEL READ
Mere phenomenon, dear Jeff. That's all. Seeking enlightenment
one builds many expectations. This brings on a certain amount of
stress. And from this stress visions may result. Do they have
any value? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

The question remains - who is having those visions/experiences?
The answer is simply the mind/body complex is having those
visions/experiences.

And what is the mind/body complex? An illusion! You, me,
everything and everybody is an illusion. Is illusion/maya bad?
No it is just illusion. Or the play of something that the
mind/ego/intellect cannot comprehend. Why can't the
mind/ego/intellect comprehend the truth of who you are? It isn't
designed to!

During meditation just allow the mind/ego/intellect to do its
dance. Watch it without trying to 'control' it or guide it. Just
watch it. It goes and goes and goes. Then it tires and stops,
catches its breath and starts up again.

After some time, allow the question to arise: who is watching
the mind/ego/intellect do its tricks?

May all expectations and desire for liberation drop away. There
you will see your true self. How ordinary and familiar!

HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!

Peace - grace be yours - Michael


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TIM GERCHMEZ

Dear List,

A Koan is not a word-puzzle (like "Complete the next two in this
sequence: o,t, t, f, f"), not something to be solved and
presented as a solution. Nor is it intended to provoke an
emotional response.

Rather, a koan something to be puzzled over and pondered --
traditionally (in Zen), to simply to tire the mind to the point
of giving up... but it could also be offered as a pointer.

The "answers" to Koans are traditionally given to Zen roshis
simply so they can see how deeply you're involved in the koan,
whether it's being given a great deal of attention... NOT to see
if you have the "right answer." There is no right or wrong
answer to a koan.

Anyway, I was making some tea a while ago, when a possible koan
spontaneously popped into my head. I thought about giving it to
the list, but then I realized that it would probably be treated
as a word-puzzle by some. Still, it might be interesting to give
it to the list, so I'll do so anyway.

I don't want to know the answer. It would be nice if the
question was given consideration for at least a few days before
anyone posted an interpretation.

Here is the koan:

"Why do you give me so much power?"

Enjoy,

Tim

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MEDIT8

Who You Are Before your mother knew you were in her womb, before
any doctor, politician, family member, religious leader, or
anyone else on earth even knew you existed, the Highest Power so
loved you that he gave you life and protected and nourished you.
Before you had drawn your first breath, the Highest Power had
already demonstrated love and concern for you and provided all
you needed for your wellbeing, and this continues to this very
moment. Your inner Witness, your Real Self, has gone from the
womb of flesh to the womb of the Cosmos. The Highest has made
every atom, that makes up every molecule, that makes up every
cell, that makes up every organ in your body, perfectly
compatible with everything the Universe provides. The air,
earth, fire, and water have been created in the precise
proportions necessary to provide the environment needed for you
to survive and thrive. The odds against this happening by chance
are trillions to one and can be appreciated as absolute proof of
the Highest's loving intervention and intention. Mother Earth is
in an exquisite rhythm with its sister planets as gravity and
motion balance their dance around Father Sun, as it travels in
concert with the billions of other stars and heavenly bodies
that make up our galaxy. Ultimately, the hundreds of billions of
galaxies, in harmony, provide the exact perfect conditions that
allow consciousness to exist and evolve. You are, always were,
and will always be, the love child of the Highest Power. Every
atom in the universe is presenting itself to enlighten you. The
celestial stage has been set. It is for you to decide to be
conscious of the cosmos and embrace your infinite, eternal
identity. Royal Divine Child of the Universe, awaken and live
happily ever after. Who You Are Meditation Technique Position
yourself in the posture you have found to be the one that
affords the greatest comfort to you, while letting you maintain
an alert awareness without falling asleep. Direct your inner
chatterer to be still and your emotions to remain in a serene
state. With eyes open, let your gaze fall to any given spot on
the surface of the floor or ground. If you are sitting on sand,
pick out one grain to focus on. If you are on a carpet, lock
your attention on one fiber. And so on. Witness your mind making
comments, comparisons, and judgements, but remain unreactive.
Simply let the gazing continue no matter how strongly your
chatterer tries to discourage you. It will eventually cease and
desist. As your concentration becomes more intense, with less
and less effort, you will start to see movement. For instance,
the grains of sand may start to appear to be giving off light
that is flowing in a paisley pattern motion. This is the atomic
and pre-atomic nature of reality presenting itself to you. Soon
thereafter the air, earth, water, and fire within and without
you will reveal their atomic unification and join in this dance
of light.

This will continue until your mind chatter stops it. By stilling
the mind, the intensity will grow until the point is reached
where it is not unusual for the experience to be so astonishing
and overwhelming that inner comments like "Oh my God!" and
"Thank you God" occur. Simultaneously, language becomes
insufficient and only feelings of love and adoration suffice.
Keep at one with the eternal silence of the inner Witness and
you will know your limitless and total connection with the
universe and its creator. The misidentification of your self as
apart from the rest of the universe as a body, mind, or feeling
will evaporate like a fog lifting, and there revealed in all
glory will be the divine Garden of Eden that has always been
present. And you will live happily ever after. After Thought
Half a century ago, on one of TV's first variety shows, the Ed
Sullivan Show, a ventriloquist named Senior Wences used to have
a running gag with his puppet (which was simply his hand with
some lipstick on it, to make it look like a face). He would say,
"That's easy to do!" about various things, and his hand puppet
would answer "Easy for you, difficult for me!" in a Spanish
dialect. This always made the audience convulse with laughter.
But in real life, when things are easy for someone else, but
difficult for you, you rarely find it humorous. As a matter of
fact, adjectives like frustrating, annoying, ego deflating, and
so on, are often much more accurate descriptions of how you
feel. The Who You Are Meditation Technique has the potential to
be in this category. It is easy to tell someone "Sit
comfortably, concentrate, and let the Highest Power fill you
with all the wonders and wisdom of the universe". But can you
actually sit comfortably enough, for long enough for your
attention to remain focused enough? If so, this and every other
technique will "work". If not, like most things, the more you
practice, the better you will get. Persevere, because unlike
most things, the end result of this meditative effort has the
potential to lead to the end of all effort. And effortlessly,
you will live happily ever after

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