Click here to go to the next issue
Highlights Home Page | Receive the Nonduality Highlights each day
How to submit material to the Highlights
#4357 -
The Nonduality Highlights - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights
The Urban Guru Magazine
is the next step in modern presentation of Nonduality started
with the Urban Guru Cafe. Brought to you by the same folks
who brought the Urban Guru Cafe, the UGM will be
a more flexible format to present the message of nonduality.
The Urban Guru Cafe featured audio
interviews with some of the clearest speakers on nonduality today
– presented with music and featuring a lively comment board.
The Urban Guru Magazine continues this effort with
articles, recurring features, audio and/or video presentations.
The podcast episodes of the Urban Guru Cafe are also
available via the magazine.
Look for new updates and articles
to happen about once a month on the Urban Guru Magazine.
Posted by Gilbert Schultz
on
Dear Gilbert,
May I ask you a question about
non-duality and life?
With our mind/thought we
cannot understand life and we don’t have another instrument.
But there are expressions of
life here on earth. They didn’t happen by ‘accident’.
There is an intelligence behind it, life itself. If we are that
life, that intelligence, we would know how these expressions
(including ourselves) came about and how we could do it
ourselves.(again).
So how do you explain that we
don’t have the instrument to understand and create life
(expressions) if we are that life/intelligence ourselves?
Kind regards, T.
Gilbert: There is no HOW to any of
it.
It is ALL Spontaneous.
You ARE reality. The mind is
time.
Stop trying to understand or trying
to conceptualise it.
Relax – pure being is already
here.
T replies: Yes, there is a HOW
to all the manipulations of energy in this reality. It is a
fact. There is a cause to all this. A mistake or a ‘thought
form’ that ‘separated’ itself from the life force.
It is as if the life essence is captured in this reality. We are
the result of that.
I wondered what your thoughts
were on this, but it seems you have none or don’t care.
But can you escape all this?
You have to accept the reality as it is imposed on us. You are
doing the same and decide if you participate in that game (by
using thought).
It seems that plays an
important part when ’letting it all go’.
If we are life, we would know
exactly what it was and how the expressions are formed. Probably
not by using thought, but we would ‘know’. But we don’t.
It is as if we are a weak version of life just like the animals
and the matter around us.
What about all the
manipulations of energy in this reality. It is a fact. There is a
cause to all this. A mistake in nature or a ‘thought form’
that ‘separated’ itself from the life force. It is as
if the life essence is captured in this reality. We are the
result of that. Thank you – T
Gilbert: The conceptual ‘person’
knows nothing.
The pure activity of knowing is the
basis of everything. How that expresses cannot be reduced
to a theory or concept.
Reality is not imposed on ‘us’.
As long as you believe such things, the concepts will
squeeze the consciousness into a restricted view.
You seem to have strong opinions on
these ‘things’ but not one of them can you prove.
No one can define awareness or
consciousness. Try it. All you will have is words
and ideas and all of them could not take place without
consciousness/awareness. Consciousness/awareness is
(therefore) PRIOR to whatever appears in or on it.
Do not cling to the words –
let them disappear naturally.
WHO has to accept reality as ‘something’
that is imposed on ‘us’?
Some will have difficulty with this
‘pointing’. Why? Because of old
ideas.
You say that it seems that I don’t
care. Well that is your projection and it is apparently in
conflict with YOUR caring. Caring and not caring are two
sides of the same coin.
It is all in your mind. Don’t
assume that you know my mind or anyone else’s mind.
You don’t even know what your next thought is going to be
– let alone my next thought.
Now if there is a tinge of
displeasure with what you read here, why not have a close look at
who it is that is disturbed by mere words or concepts?
You may be surprised at what you
see.
There is nothing in this for ME
– neither your ‘me’ or my ‘me’..
Awareness is unlimited by the
patterns that appear in it.
T replies: Dear Gilbert,
Thank you for your response.
You are right I don’t know
what is in your mind. My apologies. Nor can I know what life,
so-called consciousness is. I only ‘see’ what is
happening in this reality. I ‘see’ what thought is and
what it is doing. I agree with U.G. Krishnamurti on this,
although I go a little bit further. Thought is a kind of virus in
our brain or a power that has taken over the mind
manipulating the life energy, animals and human beings. Causing
all the pain and misery in our reality while looking for
pleasure. Thought is really the enemy.
If the reality is imposed on us
is indeed subject to discussion. On the one hand it is, as I
reject thought as it is, on the other hand I am here and
everything what is happening is part of life. Life accepted it,
so I ‘should’ do the same.
Therefore I have to accept the
reality, knowing also that I cannot change is, because
thought is not the instrument to do so. There are only images and
false ideas/concepts. There is only a moral illusion that would
only cause enslavement and solve nothing.
Now I can leave it alone,
because I know that it cannot be changed by me or other
human beings.
I agree with most of your
material on non-duality, but what really is missing and is the
problem is thought. Keep finding new ways to describe the
‘point’ of non-duality and ‘I am that’ keeps
only thought going. This e-mail to you is doing the same thing.
Words are dead, thought is
dead. To realize that is really the point.
Kind regards, T.
Gilbert: Yes thoughts have no life
of their own. Even though U.G. was very clear at times, I
must, quite naturally, disagree with UG on one point.. To suggest
that the mind or thought is an enemy is nothing but trouble.
What is the reference point that
calls the mind or thought an enemy – isn’t just another
thought? Is it a fixation? Is it freedom?
The mind simply needs to be
understood. It is all we have to use, in order to
understand the mind. We use the mind to understand the
mind.
Thought itself is not the problem
– belief in thought as being reality is the problem and that
requires an apparent entity to believe.
Once you investigate these, there
is a potential insight. The insight cannot be contrived by
the mind – or some entity.
The insight may appear as a moment
of grace – but that is simply another concept.