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With Diamond Hill gathering, not much activity on Sunday, still some
gems:

DAN BERKOW on Teaching:


(...)
I have no cathegorical
assertions about what's right
for someone else with regard
to having or not having a spiritual
teacher - or about whether or
not someone should or shouldn't teach.

What does it mean to teach? A human
being can teach other human beings,
yet there is an unspeakable teaching
that doesn't depend on human beings.
It "comes through"...
This is indescribable, and
there is no barrier to It -
it's not happening here as opposed
to there, it's not accessed by
a being who is separate from it.

A lot of my comments are just to
point to That - not "against"
the idea of teaching, not
"against" studying or learning
with a teacher.

Texts, teachers may well be
facilitative. I have read, studied with teachers,
and I have taught. I also regard us as able
to access teaching not dependent on the consensus
idea of physical reality.

How this will unfold is unknowable
and I wouldn't try to predict how it will work
for anyone. The "unknowability" itself is where
learning is.

Anything is facilitative that
releases self-constructed
barriers to "this":
unmediated awareness
(not the words or
concept "unmediated awareness").

If "perception" can be used
as a word for the nonseparation
of this living moment and
eternal Reality, then
the perceiver isn't apart
from the perceived, nor is
there any object apart from
perception. The teacher
and the student aren't apart
from perception, and neither
is "anything else".
Nothing's out of place ...:-)

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MARCIA PAUL and DAN BERKOW:

DAN:

> Dear Marcia,
>
> Perhaps you misunderstand me.
> I'm not saying information
> has no use in day to
> day life.
> Far from it.
> If I'm driving in an unfamiliar
> city, I will use a map.
>
> However, if I want to know
> what's really true,
> what's ultimately real,
> information won't work.
>
> It is when I release
> my being from information
> that I stand in eternity.
>
> Eternity isn't a matter of
> accumulating information.
>
> I live eternally,
> yet this body that
> was born and will
> die, functions
> in day to day
> reality the same
> as other bodies.
>
> When I'm hungry, I eat.
> If I don't know where the
> grocery store is,
> I ask directions.


Eternity is in love with the products of time.

Blake

I understand. And we don't even disagree really.
How could we? :-)


Much love,
Marcia

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MANCHINE:

ESCAPE


It comes more often it seems
Amidst some terrible crisis
The stark naked truth of the moment.

You look around, your world in ruins
And the sun is shining like nothing's happened.
A man walks on the street unscathed.

It's like time stands still
Silence
Nobody's listening to my terror

Now's the moment to step outside it
When it's 'still' like this
Why am I the only one who's suffering?

I walk around, as in a lucid dream
My crisis is there, but it doesn't seem real
Unfolding like the rest who scuttle about

A man walks through me
God, his wife's just left him
Honest, I didn't know!

I follow him
Want to tell him how sorry..
I AM

But, I...
This...
....can't be.

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DAN BERKOW and KKT on Stopping in Time:

KKT -
These words you shared
from Lao Tzu yet
resonate - with a power
succinctly conveyed
from the 'original condition'.

An echo of something
before infinity.

As an arrow that
hits the target
directly, with
no wavering.

Pretty flowers fade,
the Tao remains.

Sweet talk covers,
concealing what is unhidden.
Sincere speech uncovers
the obvious secret.

In going too far,
our mistiming leads
to obscuring the truth.

In knowing when not
to go, the truth
is our stability.

Yes - stop in time
so restraint
speaks with the
clarity that is
lost by overextension.

(KKT, the last stanza you
quoted is quite far-reaching --
in addition to appropriately
commenting upon discourse
in this forum, it can
be applied to politics,
relationships, Taoist
sexual yoga, martial arts,
and knowing original
awareness. Now,
*that's* a powerful statement.
;-)

Shalom,
Dan

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MELODY ANDERSON and XAN on Love:

Xan:
> ~ Thinking of this recently, I realized it is the
love
> in the 'other' that I love, whether it is hidden or
visible.
> Once I gave up qualifications for lovability, the
question
> of "Do I love you?" or even "Let me count the ways
that I
> love you." no longer came up.
>
> "Namaste" means, "I greet your soul from my soul."
>
> I love you can be the english version of Namaste.
>
> I love you, Melody, for no reason at all.
> Xan


Love without reason
is the only Love I know.


I love you, too, Xan......
when I'm conscious of It,

or even when my thoughts obscure
my awareness of It.

Melody

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