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#2657 - Thursday, November 30,
2006 - Editor: Jerry Katz
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"It is U.G. Krishnamurti who is not an authentic or sincere man -- but you can fall into the trap because he is repeating beautiful phrases." --Osho
U.G. Krishnamurti is controversial in his extremism. Osho is controversial in his extremism! In this issue we feature Osho's view of U.G. Thanks to Kamal for sending us the link.
I have noted that all these spiritual giants go away during certain times of the day and then return at other times. They are dream characters no different than a lady waiting for a bus. And their teachings are invented: pastries, cakes, and cookies taking infinite shapes. I hope everyone tries everything on the table. Enjoy it all and remember that none of it is good for you.
from http://www.otoons.com/osho/askosho_u.g.krishnamurti.htm
OSHO:
One of my sannyasins went to
see U.G. Krishnamurti, and because he argued with him, U.G.
Krishnamurti immediately became angry. And these people like U.G.
Krishnamurti are telling people to drop anger, to drop greed, to
drop the ego. But if you provoke them... Their whole religion is
just skindeep. Inside is hiding a very pious ego, and when ego
becomes pious it becomes poisonous. It is more dangerous because
you become absolutely unaware of it, it goes so deep down in the
unconscious. U.G. Krishnamurti lived with J. Krishnamurti for
twelve years, and he never mentions his name. If somebody brings
up J. Krishnamurti's name, he immediately condemns J.
Krishnamurti -- and whatever he is saying is just an imitation of
J. Krishnamurti, paraphrasing. The reason he cannot accept the
fact that he has been with J. Krishnamurti for twelve years is
very simple. The moment he accepts it, then you can compare his
statements with J. Krishnamurti's, and you will find they are
simply paraphrasing. He is repeating, imitating, he knows
nothing.
Osho
Before my sannyasin started
arguing with U.G. Krishnamurti, he was just a great saint, so
silent, so peaceful. As the argument began, he was afraid to be
caught, he could not answer the questions, and anger suddenly
arose. He may not have been aware of that anger, but my sannyasin
helped him! He wanted to get rid of the sannyasin. It is U.G.
Krishnamurti who is not an authentic or sincere man -- but you
can fall into the trap because he is repeating beautiful phrases.
His memory is good, and his intellect is good, but this is the
shadow.
Osho
... only one thing has to be
remembered: when you are fragile in your growth, people like U.G.
Krishnamurti can destroy you. These people have missed their
life, and now they are living in frustration. And in frustration
people start behaving like women. They start breaking things,
throwing things. That's what U.G. Krishnamurti is doing.
Osho:
Just the other day I was
reading a lecture of U. G. Krishnamurti. He says he went to see
Ramana Maharshi. He was not attracted - because he was chopping
vegetables. Yes, Ramana Maharshi was that kind of man, very
ordinary. Chopping vegetables! U. G. Krishnamurti must have gone
to see somebody extraordinary sitting on a golden throne or
something. Ramana Maharshi just sitting on the floor and chopping
vegetables? preparing vegetables for the kitchen! He was very
much frustrated. Then another day he went and saw him reading
jokes. Finished for ever! This man knows nothing. This man is
very ordinary. He left the ashram; it was not worth it. But I
would like to say to you: this man, Ramana Maharshi, is one of
the greatest Buddhas ever born to the world. That was his
Buddhahood in action! U. G. Krishnamurti must have been in search
of a pretender. He could not see the ordinariness and the beauty
of it and the grace of it. And this same man, U. G. Krishnamurti,
lived with Swami Sivanand of Rishikesh for seven years - and that
chap was just stupid - and practised yoga with him. And after
seven years he recognized that he has nothing; but after seven
years, he took seven years. That simply shows that he also has a
mighty dull mind. Seven years to see that Sivanand has nothing.
Seven seconds are more than enough! And with Ramana Maharshi,
seven seconds were enough - because he saw him chopping
vegetables or reading jokes, looking at cartoons. That's how the
ordinary mind, the egoistic mind functions. The ego is always
searching for something bigger, some bigger ego. And the true
sage has no ego; he is an ordinary man. He is utterly ordinary -
that is his extraordinariness! I would like to say to U. G.
Krishnamurti: he should have looked in the eyes of Ramana
Maharshi. He looked only at the hands which were chopping
vegetables. He should have looked into his eyes - with what love
he was chopping the vegetables. He should have looked into his
eyes to see what love he was. He was the Real Man. There is only
one indication and that is love. But to understand love you have
to be a little silent, a little loving, a little open. If you are
full of prejudices about how the enlightened man should be, then
you will go on missing. You should not have any prejudices. Just
look into the eyes of a real man, and suddenly something will
start stirring in your heart too. Tears will come to your eyes,
your energy will have a great delight, your heart will throb with
new vigour. Your soul will spread its wings.
Osho: Take It Easy Vol.1 #
5
Just the other day I mentioned
U.G. Krishnamurti. When he saw Ramana Maharshi reading joke books
and looking at cartoons, he was very much frustrated. Not only
that: a man asked a question about God and U.G. Krishnamurti was
present there - very seriously, bowing at his feet, a man asked
about God. And what did Sri Ramana do? do you know? He gave him a
joke book and said, "Read it!" Naturally, U. G.
Krishnamurti was very much offended. Is this a way? This seems to
be disrespectful to the man who has asked such a serious question
- to give him a joke book. This is again a kick in the pants, in
its own way. What he is saying is, "What nonsense are you
talking about! God? It is not a thing to be talked about - better
read a joke book and have a good laugh. "If you can laugh,
maybe you can know God - not by what I will say. But if you can
laugh a hearty laugh, a belly-laugh, in that moment thinking
stops." In the moment of laughter, suddenly you are one with
the harmony of existence. Weep... you have fallen apart, you are
no more part of it. In sadness, in seriousness, in despair, you
are not in rhythm with existence. In laughing, in dancing, in
singing, in loving, you are in rhythm with existence.
Osho: Take It Easy Vol.1 #
6
Now, this U. G. Krishnamurti
missed Sri Ramana - and something great was happening. Almost
like Buddha giving his flower to Mahakashyap, Sri Ramana giving a
joke book to a man who is asking about God, or Ma Tzu giving a
terrific kick in the pants. U. G. Krishnamurti missed Ramana.
Then he missed J. Krishnamurti too. He lived for years with J.
Krishnamurti. Now, J. Krishnamurti is totally different in his
expression, very logical, very rational. The beginning of his
work is always with the mind; then slowly slowly he leads you
beyond the mind, But there U. G. Krishnamurti thought it was all
abstraction, philosophy. He stopped going there because "It
is all abstraction." He left Sri Ramana because there was no
philosophy. He left Krishnamurti because there was too much
philosophy. In both the cases he missed. And he lived with Sri
Sivananda of Rishikesh for seven years doing yoga postures. There
for seven years he thought, "Something is here." And
there was nothing! Sivananda is a very ordinary teacher. You can
find dozens of them all around this country teaching people how
to stand on their heads, teaching people stupid things. There he
remained for seven years, became a disciple.