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Date: Sun Jun 20, 1999 9:03 am
Subject: Re: Nondual Digest June 19


CanListen@aol.com wrote:
>
> 1) Thanks for the website and the material presented
> 2) I lost yesterday's lengthy Krishnamurti quote and would dearly love to
> have access to it again. Could you tell me the source, send it to me, or
> repeat for me yesterday's (6/19/99) presentations?
> Thanks, for whatever you can do.

Okay. The material follows. And thank you for the work you do in your
part of the world.
---Jerry
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From: PhamDLuan@aol.com

KKT: Excerpt from the book "J. Krishnamurti
as I Knew Him" by Susunaga Weeraperuma.
Enjoy!



AWARENESS IS A GAME

Susunaga Weeraperuma: After all these years of
self-observation, isn't it shameful that the image-
making process still continues in my mind? The
torrential rain of thought never stops pouring down.
One feels depressed in defeat.

Krishnamurti: Why do you judge yourself? As a
child you must have played games. Awareness
is also like a game. If you play only, for the fun
of it, does it matter whether you win or lose?

SW: I find that awareness is not continuous. There
are flashes of awareness. The flashes stop and then
there are moments of dullness. One is suddenly
aware again. This intermittent nature of awareness
is a problem.

K: Awareness does not have to be continuous:
seldom is it continuous. When you criticize
yourself by saying that awareness is not continuous,
it shows that you have formed a concept of awareness,
an ideal, a standard. Thereafter you try to conform to
that standard established by yourself. Sir, awareness
is not a self-imposed practice. You cannot practise
awareness. When you have an insight into the way
your mind works, do not become greedy for more
insights by saying the mind should be aware all the
time.

SW: I feel fatigued after trying to be aware from
moment to moment.

K: Take a rest when you are tired. After you have
refreshed yourself, then you are ready for work again.
Self-observation involves very hard work. Without
energy you cannot work and when energy has
depleted by work then you have to rest again.

SW: I seem to expend more energy when the
mind is struggling to be alert.

K: Struggling to be alert is a waste of energy
whereas BEING alert generates energy. Have
you noticed that there is actually an increased
energy when you come to terms with yourself?
Let us consider fear. The mind loves to escape
from fear by justifying its existence or brushing
it aside. You do not eliminate fear by escaping
from it. But the moment the fact of fear is
accepted and fully faced, without running away
from it, fear disappears and a new energy comes
into being.

SW: The memories of certain pleasant and
unpleasant experiences often recur. Certain
thoughts are so deeply entangled in consciousness
that they seem to be permanently residing there.

K: Whenever a thought recurs you must look at
it anew. An annoying thought or a pleasurable
thought that keeps on emerging has a story to
tell. Why not allow the fellow to reveal his own
story? Can't you find out a little more about the
fellow each time he emerges?

SW: My other difficulty is the rapidity of the
thought process. It moves so fast that I cannot
keep pace with it.

K: It will calm down as you uncover the layers
of the unconscious. You must lay bare the
unconscious so that there are no dark corners
within it.

SW: I experience periods of tranquility, when
thought has temporarily fallen into abeyance.
It is a pity that these periods are not of longer
duration.

K: Why ask for more? Surely it is thought that
is demanding tranquility. There will certainly be
no tranquility so long as thought operates. On
one occasion a very learned friend remarked that
he had read a great deal with the result that there
was no space in his mind. Can a mind that is very
active and full of its own noise ever have the silence
to receive something untouched by thought? Sir,
if I may suggest, try to be alone for at least one
hour every day. During this period you should not
read, work or enjoy the company of your friends.
You may devote this time for taking a solitary walk
or observing nature. It is a sheer delight to watch
the birds in flight, the lovely green trees and the
vast open skies. The mind loses its sensitivity
whenever there is no communion with nature.
Live close to nature.

SW: It is necessary to know every thought?

K: You cannot possibly know every thought.
There are far too many of them. The stream
of consciousness is enormous and powerful.
Only by understanding the limitations of
thought can you transcend it. The very act of
understanding is also the act of crossing this
stream. You have got to walk out of it. Sir,
walk out of it right now!

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