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Becky:
Life is really all there is. We have schedules and obligations and
confusion about how to "deal" with it causes one to ask for an application
of something. But how can we apply anything to what is already there? It's
more like leaving it all alone. Then life is just itself without all of our
impositions. I've enjoyed your posts because they are short, direct and clear.

Mirror:
It is simpler than you think, because there is no one who could 'apply nd'
to daily life. If nd were something applicable, you would also need some
entity to apply it. There are no separate entities. "There is no other" is
not a concept. "There is me and there are others" is the concept. There is
only one. This one comes as me drinking wine with a friend, comes as me
taking my kids to school, comes as a snail eating my flowers, comes as
me hating the snail for eating my flowers, comes as you mailing your posts
to the nds. ND is not a way of life, it is life itself.
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Andrew:
Yesterday morning I was woken around dawn by a crow sitting outside
our bedroom window. I lay there, half asleep and half awake, utterly
comfortable and relaxed, while this bird carried on with a succession
clicks cackles gurgles giggles pauses sighs clacks soft squalks etc. for
what seemed like a long time, with no repeated phrases, and a lot of what
sounded like laughter. I felt that the bird was talking to me, but I was
unable at the time to understand what s'he was saying. When s'he flew away
I went back to sleep.
I've been considering this experience for the last day or so, and I feel
I have come to an understanding of part of what the bird was saying, which
is "Eat it, and laugh."
The 'waste' Melody and others have been talking about is the corpses of
concepts, ideas, ways of coping, which have been left behind, which have
died as we have 'moved on', and the concern Melody expressed is with the
pollution and trouble this causes. The crow's solution, "Eat it", don't
leave this carrion lying around, eat it up.
The second message I understand from the crow's discourse is about
internal laughter. There's a concept of walking around with an internal
smile, that an internal smile makes the world a more pleasant place.
Well the crow was talking about going a step further, s'he was talking
about laughing at the world, at oneself, and at the carrion one is eating,
cruel and difficult and heartless as it may seem. I don't fully understand
this, but the crow was saying that laughter is how you digest this food.

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Kristi:
Anyone: tell me your story.....tell me what worked for you....tell me what
didn't....show me who you are at any given point and place and offer me the
gift of you...where you are at right now...for surely I will see myself
there too and finding you I will find me.....I am not threatened by your
suffering....I am not threatened by mine....I am not threatened by my
confusion as I am not threatened by yours...I will learn not to be
threatened by your joy, or your sarcasm, your happiness or
certainty....teach me by being real as personality....so I can see the whole
reflected in all the pieces and reach beyond my own personality to recognize
my self in the One MInd. As you teach me, I will teach you...for that is the
nature of sharing....like the rainbow it always touches both ends
simultaneously.

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Melody:

I lost the courage to look myself in the eye, and to
allow the rest of you to 'see me'.

I began to identify with the posts I was writing, and
developed an investment (attachment) to having them
heard 'correctly'. :-)

I lost sight of my resolution to stay naked.

Instead I became resolved 'to be heard'.

And it became, for a while, more important than
standing free.

When I'm naked (free and centered), I could care less if
anyone hears me.
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Eric:

~a 74 year young song writer once shared his 'secret to writing':

"always write first person, for that's the only language another
heart will hear."

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Becky:

All I want anymore is to just be the way I am and not turn it all into a
problem. I don't have such lofty and high goals of constant bliss. I
guess any of those ideas are about the future and if it's really true that
it's all really happening in the moment right now, then why do we even talk
about this enlightenment as something to happen to us?

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Harsha:

Things
happen, people agree or disagree and say or do things. What of it? That is
an endless dance and one can give any interpretation to various movements
within it and the missteps. Someone might step on your toes and you can
still be at ease knowing that you are loved. The eye of the tornado is calm
and still. Peace is our nature.

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someone watched
so someone knew
someone listened
so someone heard
the essense of one
solitary word
someone reached
again again
so touched upon became
the fire that is within
someone saw
between the air
love was being
everywhere

love and blessings,
aleks
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From: "Stephen Williamson" <stephen@clearlight.freeserve.co.uk>

Ho everyone. I'm Steve in England and this is my first message to the
NondualitySalon.

Non-duality. Yes, after listening to J Krishnamurti in the 60's, sitting at
the feet of various teachers and Gurus and now connected to ShantiMayi, I am
beginning to experience the onness of it all. Pretty weird stuff, no ego, no
duality, do discrimination. Yet Samsara, this world of appearances feels so
real, so do my dreams when I am in the lucid state. A dream within a dream
within a dream, yet to wake up seems not so difficult once the seeking, the
craving ceases and I realise that there was never anywhere to go, anything
to find. The quest was always away from where I am. The secret was here all
the time....

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