Nonduality: The Varieties of Expression


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#1142, Sunday, July 21, 2002

Your Grandest Expression Awaits You, For it All Lies in
Who You Paint Yourself to Be.

Editor: Christiana (with Jerry) -- for Gloria who has hurt her back.. heal soon, dear friend


There's a film now showing in NYC which I just saw and
can highly recommend to those interested in such
matters. An unusually sensitive, moving, engaging, and
profound 1 hour and 45 minute documentary on the
Ayurvedic healing tradition of India, it is titled
"Ayurveda: Art of Being". A five star gem, for sure!
Perhaps it will appear in some other cities as well.

All the best,


Magnificent Act

"The mood of a warrior is not so far-fetched for yours
or anybody's world. You need it in order to cut through
all the guff." I explained my way of reasoning. The lion
and my fellow men were not on a par, because I knew the
intimate quirks of men while I knew nothing about the
lion. What offended me about my fellow men was that
they acted maliciously and knowingly. "I know, I know,"
don Juan said patiently. "To achieve the mood of a
warrior is not a simple matter. It is a revolution. To
regard the lion and the water rats and our fellow men
as equals is a magnificent act of the warrior's spirit.
It takes power to do that."

The Mood of a Warrior
Carlos Castaneda

Wim Borsboom

The original question was does the enlightened being
experience pain?

--------- An enlightened being does experience pain but
does not suffer from it, nor is s/he fearful of it. An
enlightened being does experience pleasure but does get
enjoyment from it, nor is s/he desiring it.

Of course all this depends on one's definition of the
words pleasure and pain, suffering and enjoyment.

For my purposes here, I categorize pain and pleasure as
purely physical sensations that can physically befall
ANY human being.

Suffering and enjoyment as well as fear and desire I see
as mentalized feelings (as distinct from physical
sensations) brought about by the dys-functional mental
processing of pain and pleasure. This occurs only in
human beings who have been made to see life as
conditional and/or to be manipulated.

The mind performs a different function in the
enlightened being as compared to the workings of the
mind in the "not-yet-enlightened".

By the way, I subscribe to the notion that every human
being who has not yet done so, is in the process of
re-covering or re-cognizing their innate enlightenment.

In the enlightened being the mind plays a serving role,
in the not-yet-enlightened being, the mind is the
controlling agent.

The controlling mental processing in the
not-yet-enlightened human plays a heavy hand in the
conditional manoeuvring that takes place in a world
that is seen by him/her as "to be manipulated".

The serving mind in the enlightened one registers sense
input as data or "givens", that are simply playful
ingredients, allowing one to participate in human life
as play... divine Lila.

Dustin LindenSmith

Reading Nisargadatta and applying it to ZoŽ (his infant

From pages 376-377 in I Am That, I noted the following
two exchanges with interest. The first deals with how
easy it is to get caught up in words and concepts; the
second expands on this with the aphorism, 'everything
is as it is,' in Nisargadatta's clear way.

Questioner: I have not understood well the role of the
inner self in spiritual endeavour. Who makes the
effort? Is it the outer self, or the inner?

Nisargardatta: You have invented words like effort,
inner, outer, self, etc. and seek to impose them on
reality. Things just happen to be as they are, but we
want to build them into a pattern, laid down by the
structure of our language. So strong is this habit,
that we tend to deny reality to what cannot be
verbalized. We just refuse to see that words are mere
symbols, related by convention and habit to repeated


Q: The words of the Guru, when merely heard, have little
power. One must have faith to obey them. What creates
such faith?

N: When time comes, faith comes. Everything comes in
time. The Guru is always ready to share, but there are
no takers.

Q: Yes, Sri Ramana Maharshi used to say: Gurus there are
many, but where are the disciples?

N: Well, in the course of time everything happens. All
will come through, not a single soul shall be lost.

I find the last passage especially helpful when thinking
about dealing effectively with Z's belly pain. She has
been really sore lately, apparently due to an allergy
both to cow's milk protein and to soy milk protein, and
she is prone to painful, loud crying fits that can last
for an hour or more.

As I enter one of these episodes with her, I consciously
try to relax my breathing, hold her very gently, and
make soft, if any, noises. When she builds her
intensity, I may do the same, trying to find an
opposing frequency to her crying that cancels it out.
But no matter what I've done, I've noticed that as soon
as I start thinking that she's sick or that something
is wrong with her, it spontaneously creates tension and
negative energy in me, which I surely must pass along
to her.

Just last night, I noticed a slight change in the way I
was looking at her when she was having a fit. I thought
to myself, "She's fine -- this is her normal -- this is
her reality at the moment -- there's nothing I can say
or do to reverse what's happening, so I have to just go
with it, ride the wave with her, give her as much
support as I can, and hold on to her without judgement.
No judgement; I don't think that she should be any way
other than how she is at this moment."

Believing that, I've had some really fun times with her
in the past 24 hours. We both seem to be doing a bit
better with it now.


Clarification of the Personality by A.H. Almaas

from Diamond Heart, Book IV

"Many spiritual teachers describe their experience of
realization as if they suddenly became realized and the
personality just died, or fell away. So it is
understandable that you might fantasize that one day
you will finish your meditation and there will be no
personality left. This idea of enlightenment or
self-realization is misguided, although it is true that
you can experience sudden revelations or insights that
can change the rest of your life. My perception of what
happens with people who claim to have lost their
personality totally and spontaneously is that there
often remains a split-off or suppressed part which will
manifest as a distortion or a lack of integration. This
means that there has been an essential realization, but
the realization has not clarified the personality. It
is, rather, a state of transcendence of the ego
personality. If the personality is abandoned rather than
integrated, the totality of life cannot be lived.

Transcendence and Embodiment

We can look at the process of realization from the
perspective of transcendence or from the perspective of
embodiment. When people talk about getting rid of the
ego, they're talking about a transcendent experience.
It is possible to transcend the personality or the ego,
or even physical existence. However, there is a more
difficult process which leads to the state of
embodiment of reality. Rather than simply transcending
the personality or physical existence, this state
involves actually embodying essential existence in
one's life."

More here ..


I also benefited greatly by this conference call. I'm
normally not a note-taker but I did my best to take
notes during this call. I am so grateful for David
Hawkins continued generosity to share himself with us
like he does.

Notes From 7/20/2002 Conference Call with Dr. Hawkins

Response to question regarding whether it was useful to
practice compassion, or if having an attitude of
compassion lent credence to the fact that something was

~ Compassion is good and useful – it a combination of
love and intelligence – you see something for what it
is and understand that it comes from ignorance and lack
of power to do better.

Pseudo-compassion – pretending spiritual – that is
acting as though we can love and trust everything –
that’s not useful.

Question regarding setting boundaries:

~The value of setting boundaries has to do with the
energy of the intention behind setting the boundaries –
it is good to set boundaries if this is coming from
love and not just authoritarianism. If the parent
explains for example that the child may not play
certain video games because they are harmful to the
child, then the child will accept the boundaries as
evidence of love.

Question regarding the evolution of duality and

~Duality comes out of language.

Nonduality – witnessing happeningness without ascribing
a causing element

Causality is the basic illusion from which duality

Over (600?) one sees that everything is happening
spontaneously as expressions of its own nature.

This is like a particle having a certain charge under
the influence of local conditions and the entire

Buddha’s teaching that everything can be attributed to
an endless chain of causality calibrates at 996; but
David sees everything happening as described above. (I
think he said this explanation calibrates at 998, but
the scribe isn’t clear about that.)

Conditions may allow for the expression, but still it is
the essence that is being expressed.

Karmic charge (or pattern) is the prevailing condition
on the level of consciousness and if the conditions in
the world are present, then the maniffestation can

For example, the video game is programming the
unconscious (like hypnosis); then conditions can allow
this program to run (such as drug use). (The flowering
of the potentiality.)

But you trace everything back to its source, and that
source is God.

Under certain condditions potentiality can be expressed.

~Question asking David to define God:

God is the subjective reality that shone forth – the
allness of God—all existence springs out of that which
is manifest. God is the universe.

~Question about allness vs. nothingness (existence vs.

The process of negation leads one to the void –
nothingness – beyond form. This is a subjective state
of consciousness—a belief system of the ego, but not
true. If the void is nothingness, then nothing could
experience—realizing this jumps one back out of the
void to allness, which is full of love.

David experienced the void and saw that it was empty of
love—because he had experienced the state of love, he
had a knowingness in the void that something was

Allness is the presence of God as innate to all

(The way there – not sure of the context of this
statement??) is in every moment to let go of wanting to
change anything.

However, if you negate love (release love as an
attachment), then you wind up in the void. It is not
love that needs to be released, but the attachment to

The pathway of the heart does not take on to the void.

The pathway of the heart is the unconditional love of
everything and everyone, including oneself.

One way to do that is through forgivness, which can be
done by surrendering how you are seeing something to

All negative emotions have a payoff—surrender the payoff
out of love for God – love God more than one’s own
thinkingness. This is letting go of positionality—an
act of devotion.

~In response to the question of a person who has been in
or near the void a number of times and experiences it
as terror, and wanted to know what to do when facing
that terror:

When in the void, surrender the fear of nonexistence to
God in order to transcend it—that will take you to the
exquisite state that is always present.

To people on the spiritual path, the bliss state,
infinite presence, comes and goes—when it goes it means
that the next barrier has come up that needs to be

Most people who cross over 600 stay there.

In the high 500s, where you experience bliss and the
presence of God, it can come and go.

~Question regarding what is the “I” that goes through
all these lifetimes:

It is (like?) an energy pattern. (I didn’t get the rest
of this—maybe someone else could fill this in.)

This world is like a purgatorial domain where one can
experience the heights and depths.

He quoted Buddha, who said that it is extremely rare to
have the opportunity to be born a human—that in this
domain free will is innate.

For 99% of the population to reach unconditional love is
the ultimate goal. The high 500’s is a beaitific state
– from there you can go to heaven and continue to
evolve—heavenly realms are (may be?) a more suitable
place to evolve to the higher levels than on earth.

It is risky to go to the higher states of consciousness
in this dimension.

0.4% get to 540.

The Course in Miracles will take you to 600 – it takes
you to the place where you realize that everything is
happening on its own and the world is full of

Surrendering my desire to think to God – attitudes,

For example, if you realize that you hate hatred, then
become willing to surrender your hatred of hatred.

Willingness to let go of any negativity that arises in
your mind as it arises.

To accept hatred, you’d have to see it differently –
know that it comes out of ignorance and innocence. See
it for what it is—understand that people can only be
what they are at the moment; if they are run by hate
they can’t help it.

Intention is what brings us higher.

Spiritual work is a way of life where everything that
happens is a new opportunity. Sometimes things go well
for awhile, then another layer comes up. (from
different spiritual bodies)

For example, David came upon a layer that was his
spiritual warrior—it was a part of the super-ego—it
comes out of the collective unconscious--it is
intolerant of defects in oneself. He had to deal with
it by compassion.

Everything is grist for the mill.

Dan Berkow

Authenticity demands authenticity,
won't be satisfied with an
image of the real.

Particularly a "spiritual image,"
which is often an attempt which
is made when other images are
found to be unsatisfying or impermanent.

Which means one reads between the lines,
as all we are given here are word images,
often spiritual images.

One is dying to the image of self, and
authenticity is what is left.

John Metzger


by Wislawa Szymborska
(translated from the Polish by Joanna Trzeciak)

Out of every hundred people,
those who always know better:

Unsure of every step:
almost all the rest.

Ready to help,
if it doesn't take long:

Always good,
because they cannot be otherwise:
four -- well, maybe five.

Able to admire without envy:

Led to error
by youth (which passes):
sixty, plus or minus.

Those not to be messed with:

Living in constant fear
of someone or something:

Capable of happiness:
twenty-some-odd at most.

Harmless alone,
turning savage in crowds:
more than half, for sure.

when forced by circumstances:
it's better not to know,
not even approximately.

Wise in hindsight:
not many more
than wise in foresight.

Getting nothing out of life except things:
(though I would like to be wrong).

Balled up in pain
and without a flashlight in the dark:
eighty-three, sooner or later.

Those who are just:
quite a few, thirty-five.

But if it takes effort to understand:

Worthy of empathy:

one hundred out of one hundred --
a figure that has never varied yet.

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Nonduality: The Varieties of Expression


ONE, by Jerry Katz

Photography by Jerry Katz

Dr. Robert Puff



Rupert Spira

DISSOLVED, Tarun Sardana

HIGH JUMP, Tarun Sardana

Greg Goode -
After Awareness: The End of the Path

Consider joining our Facebook discussion community, Nonduality Salon, going on 20 years of active participation. We were the first online discussion group dedicated to nonduality in a popular sense.